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Old 30th July 2012, 10:52   #1
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Richard Henry WATSON

Hello,

name: Richard Henry Watson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Sep 1808
baptism/christening place: St. Cuthbert, Lytham, Lancashire, England
birth date: 19 Jul 1807
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Watson
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C16214-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470929
reference number: items 4-5

Seems Richard can't be found in 1841 census. Marriage in Qld:

V1849819 79/1849 WATSON RICHARD N - CLARK SARAH PD= Presbyterian Kangaroo Point, Moreton Bay, Tambool (QLD)

I,...
I, Sarah Clark do hereby declare that I am a Member or hold Communion with the Presbyterian Church - [Sarah signed]
I, Thomas Mowbray of Kangaroo Point, Co. Stanley, Minister of Presbyterian Church do hereby certify that Richard Henry Watson of Tarrouie ?, Co. Stanley and Sarah Clark of Brisbane, were joined together in Wedlock by me on the First of December 1849 at Brisbane, in the presence of Henry Bulgin and Thomas Clark. - [signed] T. Mowbray

So he arrived

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) - Friday 5 May 1933 p.14
80 YEARS AGO.
PIONEER'S MEMORIES.
MR. W. P. WATSON.
Interesting reminiscences of a life full of varied interests, extending back over a period of 80 years, were recalled yesterday by Mr. W. P. Watson, a well-known commercial broker, of Brisbane.
Although born at Kangaroo Point in April, 1853, much of Mr. Watson's boyhood was spent on properties owned and controlled by his father, the late Richard Henry Watson...

...His earliest recollections go back to the time when his father owned Tarome and Moogarra stations, in the Fassifern district, which he afterwards sold, then moving to the Darling Downs, where the Haliford and Stretchworth runs were acquired, between the Condamine and Moonie rivers.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

And as per usual its not a easy one

I found this which suggests he was married before in GREECE in 1825 Wonder if that is why he cant be found on the 1841 census.


Richard Henry WATSON, b Preston Lancs 1808, d Brisbane Qld 1868. m (1) Maneena CABUREE, Greece 1835, (2) Sarah CLARK, Brisbane Qld 1849;

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.watson/3228/mb.ashx

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

Oh this is interesting............

Her name was Eliza Watson, which sounds very English, but she was born in Athens to an Englishman and a Greek woman, I think in 1840.

I've seen her mother's name written as Marea Caraboora and Miriam Carboure. Her father's name was Richard Henry Watson,who may have been employed by the British consulate or embassy (family legend). She had a sister, Eleanor Watson, who was born in Athens in 1837. The family left Greece shortly after Eliza's birth, and I believe Maria/Miriam to have died in India in 1842.


So if this is your Richard wonder if he had his 2 daughters with him when he arrived.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

His brother Henry Barton Watson got a good write up in the paper. Might help us find when Richard arrived.

The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866 - 1939)(about)
Saturday 30 April 1898

Country News.
A correspondent writes: —One of the pioneers of the early days has Just passed away, at the ripe old age of 87, in the person of Henry Barton Watson. Mr. Watson couW apeak of the personal acquaintance of the explorer Leichhardt, and his second, Classon, both of whom had "spent «. few days under his roof at Taroom on their never-to-be-forgotten trip. He was born in England, but most of bis boyhood was spent in Malta, though he went to school in Yorkshire. He then made his start in life at Calcutta, in- which city he spent a few years. From there he made for Australia, and landed either.in. Sydney or Melbourne early in the fortUes. Started* shipping horses to India, but soon had enough of it. He then purchased land in Melbourne, wheW'he built <a row of houses, but, falling to flnd; enough tenants, he sold out a few years before the gold rush, and turned hia attention to squatting, in partnership with «n elder brother, Mr. Richard Henry Wat son. They bought the Taroom station, under Cunningham's Gap, from the late William Turner, of Helidon, where he did Well. They sold out a few years later to go into something bigger. The brothers then bought Halifax and War War, soon to find that they had made a great mis take, as sheep would not do there, and they lost all they were worth in about ten years. A few years later we find Mr. Henry Watson settled on a selection near Roma, •which he held for a period of about eighteen years—until his death. He was also one of the few who signed the petition for the separation from New South Wales. Mr. Wateon has left a son, four daughters, eight grand-children, and over seventy nephews and nieces.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

I have got Eliza's marriage and death.

QLD marriage
1861/C17
Wuth Ernest Magnus
Watson Eliza

QLD Death
1925/C2660 Eliza Wuth
father Richard Henry Watson
mother Marae Caraboora

Burial and photo of headstone

http://www.toowoombarc.qld.gov.au/fa...e-3e394429b846

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933)(about)
Thursday 2 July 1925

WUTH-At Wilga Private Hospital Toowoomba, on the 20th June, Eliza widow of tbe late Dr E M Wuth Aged 84 years 9 months.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

Thanks gibbo.

Well now, that is a surprise. Greece and Malta and India. Don't blame me for making it so difficult.

So, we need to know when they purchased Taroom - various spellings of that station.

If daughters were born 1837 and 1840 and their mother died in 1842 then it's very odd Richard didn't remarry long before 1849.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

I was hoping by tracking the 2 kids to the first marriage that we might eventually come across a Trove article stating when they arrived. But nothing I can find no trace of Eleanor at all.

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Re: Richard Henry WATSON

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...in partnership with «n elder brother, Mr. Richard Henry Wat son. They bought the Taroom station, under Cunningham's Gap, from the late William Turner, of Helidon, ...
No death in Qld for a William Turner 1839-1860

V1847879 32B/1847 TURNER WILLIAM AGE 37
V1849413 34B/1849 TURNER WILLIAM AGE 29
V1850408 36A/1850 TURNER WILLIAM AGE 52
V18521525 38B/1852 TURNER WILLIAM (ABOUT) AGE 30
V18541205 41A/1854 TURNER WILLIAM AGE 68

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I can't find a baptism for Henry Barton.

Death 1898/C03067 Watson Henry Barton Nutal - -

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Born in Malta on 6 Feb 1811 to John Watson and Elizabeth Pilkington. Henry Barton married Harriette Alcock and had 8 children. He passed away ...
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1) Death of Manena WATSON in India in 1843 age probably about 30 years old. She was the Greek born wife of Richard Henry Watson, who came to India from Attica, Greece circa 1840 before moving on to Australia in 1846. I don't know what he did in India whilst there. Is it possible to trace more about Maneena's death - where? when? why?

2) Henry Barton WATSON, b. Malta 1811, arrived India ? Served in East India Company before moving to Australia in 1841. Is it possible to find out where he worked and what he did? His brother Richard (above) conceivably worked with him.

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