Henry KILNER

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Qld Mental Asylum Index 1868 110-2517-2M

RE: Henry Thomas Kilner died 1874, Admission to Goodna 1868.

Thank you for your enquiry sent 27 March 2010 requesting assistance to locate any records on Henry Kilner who was admitted to the Goodna Mental Asylum (Wolston Park) in 1868 and the inquest into Henry's death in 1874.

Queensland Health have been carrying out a systematic review of their records held at Queensland State Archives. As a result of this review, they have discovered that each item in Series 9051 (Wolston Park Case Books) contains information that exceeds the end date they had previously listed. This has resulted in their recent decision to re-close the records.

Curious fact #1: That is the only reference I can find in his whole life to a middle name.


Death 26 Jul 1874/C0585 Kilner Henry - Thomas Kilner - ** born England aged 53 years

Saturday 1 August 1874
Wk (Queensland Times) regret to have to announce the sudden death of Mr. Henry Kilner, an old and respected inhabitant of Ipswich, on Sunday evening last. It appears that Mrs. Kilner had gone to church in the evening, leaving Mr. Kilner at home apparently in his usual health. Afterwards the deceased gentleman left his residence for the purpose of taking a walk, and calling out Mr. M'Gill with whom he remained only for a short time, was engaged in a conversation with the latter, and was about to light his pipe, when he suddenly fell to the floor, and on being removed to a couch only gave a few spasmodic gasps and ceased to live. The suddenness of the death was most striking.

Inquest KILNER Henry 1874 212 JUS/N41
1874 Queensland Government Gazette
Name: Henry Kilner
Topic: Death reported to the police, inquest held
Volume: XIII
Page: 106
Date: 2 September 1874

Queensland Government Gazette 1874
In the Supreme Court of Queensland.
ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION,
In the Will of Henry Kilner, late of Ipswich, in the Colony of Queensland, chemist and druggist, deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the date of the publication hereof, application will be made to the said Honorable Court, that Probate of the Will of the above-named Henry Kilner, deceased, may be granted to Caroline Kilner, the widow of the said deceased, the Executrix named in the said Will.
Dated at Ipswich, this twenty-first day of October, A.D. 1874.
J. MALBON THOMPSON,
Brisbane street, Ipswich,
Proctor for the said Caroline Kilner.
By his Agent G. V. HELLICAR,
Town Hall, Brisbane.

Curious fact #2. He didn't die in the Asylum.

Regards,

Dave

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Been thinking about this i have

Did you find anything else out on Henry?

Since you cant get any info from the Goodna records would the inquest have anything in it that might help


Your Curious fact #2. He didn't die in the Asylum. This might explain that maybe

Many people spent only a short time in an asylum, and their descendants are probably unaware of that. Reasons for the onset of mental illness (as stated in case books) include childbirth, epilepsy, head injury, alcohol, syphilis, congenital defect, jealousy, 'domestic troubles', bereavement, and 'deserted by the father of her child'.

[DaveHam9]

Thanks for wondering. Glad you remembered the post exists.

No, I've found nothing new. I don't even know how long he was in Goodna.

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Originally Posted by DaveHam9

Thanks for wondering. Glad you remembered the post exists.

No, I've found nothing new. I don't even know how long he was in Goodna.

Was he in Goodna? I only ask this cause everything i have found in the newspapers concerning who appears to be your Henry seems to be a worker there or the likes of and not so much a patient. Was there more than one Henry Kilner in QLD?

[gibbo]

Is this your fella?

The Brisbane Courier
Thursday 14 September 1865

PARLIAMENTARY PAPER.
MR. HENRY KILNER.

The subjoined is the correspondence respect- ing the above-named gentleman, and which was ordered by the Legislative Assembly to be printed:-
Brisbane, 5th September, 1865.

Sir, - I have great pleasure in forwarding for your perusal the enclosed document from M. Moor- house, Esquire, respecting Mr. Kilner's ante- cedents. Mr. Moorhouse was lately a member of the Legislative Assembly of South Australia, and formerly the protector of the aborigines in
that colony. He is at present a large squatter there.
I am, &c
Henry Challinor.


Tho honorable R. G. W. Herbert,
Colonial Secretary.
Adelaide, South Australia,
20th June, 1865.

This is to certify that Mr. Henry Kilner, of Ipswich, Queensland, was articled to me as a surgeon. He came out with me to South Aus- tralia in the ship Sir Charles Forbes, in 1839, as my apprentice ; and as he expressed a wish to renounce the medical profession, and become a general colonist, I cancelled his indentures.
He certainly is not a convict, and never was convicted to my knowledge of any crime, either in England or any of the colonies.

Matthew Moorhouse, J.P.

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That Moorhouse fella married a Mary Ruth Kilner. Mary Ruth belong to your Henry Kilner? Just trying to make sure i have the right Henry Kilner

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Hoy, your logged in but are you awake?

[DaveHam9]

We need a little symbol after the username to say we are 'away from keyboard'

Yes, yes, yes and yes I think are the correct answers.

Only one Henry I think. His son was Henry Clarke b. 1855 Ipswich. Yes Ruth/ Mary Ruth belongs in the family. A total of four KILNERs ended up in Australia. Henry to South Aust first then to Qld.,and Frederick in North Qld., George Hirst in Victoria and Ruth in South Aust.

The email I received re Goodna seemed to confirm that the death was 1874 and that's my Henry. If it's not my Henry in Goodna then we have a Henry Thomas KILNER in Queensland at the same time. I can't see anything else that confirms another Henry.

[DaveHam9]

One thing I don't understand is why it seemed Henry was in need of what looks like a character reference from someone way up in Govt circles.

Saturday 1 August 1874
Wk (Queensland Times) regret to have to announce the sudden death of Mr. Henry Kilner, an old and respected inhabitant of Ipswich, on Sunday evening last. It appears that Mrs. Kilner had gone to church in the evening, leaving Mr. Kilner at home apparently in his usual health. Afterwards the deceased gentleman left his residence for the purpose of taking a walk, and calling out Mr. M'Gill with whom he remained only for a short time, was engaged in a conversation with the latter, and was about to light his pipe, when he suddenly fell to the floor, and on being removed to a couch only gave a few spasmodic gasps and ceased to live. The suddenness of the death was most striking.

Queensland Government Gazette 1874
In the Supreme Court of Queensland.
ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION,
In the Will of Henry Kilner, late of Ipswich, in the Colony of Queensland, chemist and druggist, deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the date of the publication hereof, application will be made to the said Honorable Court, that Probate of the Will of the above-named Henry Kilner, deceased, may be granted to Caroline Kilner, the widow of the said deceased, the Executrix named in the said Will.
Dated at Ipswich, this twenty-first day of October, A.D. 1874.
J. MALBON THOMPSON,
Brisbane street, Ipswich,
Proctor for the said Caroline Kilner.
By his Agent G. V. HELLICAR,
Town Hall, Brisbane.


Reg# V1851248 37B/1851 NF= CofE Ashfield, Balmain, Burwood, Concord

Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 4 August 1851
MARRIED
On Tuesday, the 29th ult., by special licence, at St. Mary's Balmain, by the Rev. V. Cameron, M.A., Henry, youngest son of Thomas Kilner, Esq., Carr House, Huddersfield, to Miss Caroline Noble, of Balmain.

[DaveHam9]

Spouse Caroline didn't die until 1912 and none of their 5 children died young or died around 1868 so I can find no explanation so far for his admission to Goodna. I still wonder with that middle name Thomas if it an error or another person. If we could find a ref to a Henry that makes it clear he is not mine would be interesting.