Birth/Parentage of Andrew Fraser....Help??

[Fraser178]

Hi,
I have been researching my Family Tree and Genearlogical Heritage for quite a while now, and have become fairly experienced in doing so, i know of most rersources available to me, yet can still not find the Birth/Parentage of Andrew
I have put this question to many other Family Tree sites before and none could answer me
As i am too young to drive, i cannot travel to any archives to see if they can help me, as i live far from Andrews Birthplace, so that is not a possibilty
And if anyone could help me to find information on his birth, parents or siblings, i would be eternally grateful!
Here is all the information i have on Andrew..

Andrew Fraser
-Born 1808-1810 (give or take a fair few years each way)
-Married Hannah Worsley on 19th or 29th April 1829 (my computer is unavailable to me at this moment so i shall verify once i gain access)
-Married at Manchester cathedral (i think)
-in the 1841 census, he is living in Bunbury,Cheshire as a Police Officer, this gives his birth year as 1808 and birthplace as 'out of county'
-in the 1851 census, he is living in manchester, lancashire with the occupation 'smith', his birthyear would be 1810 and his birthplace as Manchester, Lancashire
-Died 1853 in Manchester.
- he also hand numerous children, who i shall give information on if needed, as i know that naming customs of the time, mean that his childrens names could hep us find his fathers and mothers name

If anyone could find his Parents, it would be greatly appreciated!
No one has been able too in the past, the challenge is set!
Good Luck

Kind Regards,
Joel

[davelambert271]

Hi
These may be his parents

Robert Fraser and Catherine Dooley married 4 feb 1793 Mcr Cathedral.

three children

1. ANDREW FRAZIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 11 Sept 1801, Christening: 04 OCT 1801 Wigan, Lancashire, England

2. MARY FRASER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 OCT 1796 Wigan, Lancashire, England

3. RACHEL FRASER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 OCT 1796 Wigan, Lancashire, England

dave

[Fraser178]

Due to the closeness of Wigan and Manchester, would you say that there is a strong possibility of these being his parents, and due to his birth date being 7 years earlier than any previous estimates?

Regards,
Joel

[Fraser178]

Due to the Closeness of wigan and manchester and the slightly off birthdate, what would you say is the possibilty of these being his Parents?
also, what website did you use?

Regards,
Joel

[davelambert271]

Hi Joel

The dob does give cause for concern, but they are the only records I could find. I wonder if Andrew 1801 died and the next child was given his name. Only a thought, but something to keep in mind. The records came from IGI -

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/sear...lear_form=true

It is interesting that they married at Mcr Cathedral.

Why was James born in Halifax? whilst all the rest of Andrews children were born Mcr

dave

[Fraser178]

Hi
indeed it is a cause for concern
someone else has an idea that Andrew was born in Scotland or in Newcastle
as in the 1841 census gives his birthdate as the specific birthdate at 1808 and these records match these


name: Andrew Frazer
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 07 Sep 1808
baptism/christening place: All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
birth date: 18 Sep 1805
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Andrew Frazer
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Isabella
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00429-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1068962
reference number: item 1 p 281

and this one


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name: Andrew Frazer
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place: , KIRKMAHOE, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
birth date: 31 Oct 1808
birthplace: , Kirkmahoe, Dumfries, Scotland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Frazer
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth Craik
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11835-2
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1067965
reference number: 2:162Q4L3


Andrew both had Daughters with the name Isabella and Elizabeth and also a son called Wiliam

Do you think these could be right?

why is it interesting that they married in Manchester cathedral?

I'm not too sure why James was born in Halifax, but the 'Plug Riots' of the time, were both in Halifax and Bunbury (where Andrew lives as a police officer) and many people were drafted in as police officers at the time to help, and they would have had to travel across the country

regards,
Joel


p.s
after checking, there is no 1841 census match for any Andrew Frazer/fraser born in or living in Newcastle or dumfries