Oscar Lawrence the vanishing Pearman!

[somerstown]

Oscar Lawrence Pearman (also spelt Pearmain) was born in 1852 at Shoreditch (Birth Certificate), in 1899 his daughter had him on her Marriage certificate as "Deceased" but thanks to Emeltee on this board I now have his death certificate and he died in 1940 at Coulsdon, Surrey, his home address is given as 124 Camberwell Road SE5.
The informant is N. Stoner, Daughter. I have not found a daughter for him with the first-name beginning with N, nor a Pearman/Stoner marriage. So am now working backwards and would greatly appreciate any info from the 1901 (or 1911?) census on Oscars whereabouts please?
Thanks for any replies.

[davelambert271]

Hi - do you have 1881 census with children Maria J 5 and Annie L. 4

This is 1891

Name: Annie Pearman
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Chas Pearman
Mother's Name: Mary Pearman
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 37

Household Members: Name Age
Chas Pearman 39 all Newington, Surrey, Builder
Mary Pearman 32 working in Pickle factory
Mariah Pearman 15
Annie Pearman 14
George Pearman 9
Nellie Pearman 4


dave

[somerstown]

Thanks for that Dave.
Still no sign of the vanishing Oscar!
Yes I have the 1881 Census for him. That's the last thing I have until his death in 1940.
Now I am puzzled by Chas Pearman so will have to follow that up. Nellie on there is presumably Oscars granddaughter and looks like she could be the informant on the Death Certificate entered as his daughter?

[davelambert271]

Hi
Don't you think Chas is Oscar then? and why should it be his G dau and not Dau?

dave

[p.risboy]

Could Chas be Oscar in 1891.

Also Nellie appears as Willie in 1901. So she could be the N on his death cert.

Steve.

[davelambert271]

1901
Name: Annie Pearman
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles T Pearman
Mother's Name: Mary Pearman
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 123

Charles T Pearman 50 Shoreditch, Carman
Mary Pearman 42 Newington, Pickler
Annie Pearman 22 Newington
Willie Pearman 12 Newington

I am not sure Annie is 22, it could be 23 or even 24
I think Willie is Nellie as they had 4 children
and we have four, Mariah, Annie, George and Nellie,

I think for whatever reason Oscar changed his name. Can't be as he was playing away as he was always with Mary, so perhaps he had been in trouble of some sort.
dave

[davelambert271]

Hi
I think this clinches it for me

Marriage
Nellie Pratt to George P Stoner Mar qtr 1914 Lambeth 1d 315

dave

[ptjw7]

Hi Dave
please excuse my ignorance but how does nellie pratt become nellie Pearman!

Confused
peter

[davelambert271]

Originally Posted by ptjw7

Hi Dave
please excuse my ignorance but how does nellie pratt become nellie Pearman!

Confused
peter

Hi
good question....
You are missing info from the 1911 census where Nellie Pearman is married to a Pratt. Living with them is Charles...
Witness on Oscars death cert is a N Stoner. So in 1914 we have Nellie Stoner formerly Pratt, nee Pearman

'Simple'

EDIT - I hadn't checked out the Pratt marriage, but here it is
Nellie Pearmain to George Henry Pratt, A/J 1909 Holborn 1b 1204

EDIT 2 - Just checked on Children, additional to Nellie b 1910 Camberwell, is
Mary E A Pratt O/D 1911 Camberwell and
Winifred V J Stoner O/D 1914 Southwark

dave

[ptjw7]

Thanks for the explanation Dave.
I was beggining to think I had missed out on something!
There seem to be lots of extra tricks to genealogy that I have not mastered yet!
Only the other day did it sink in that the census had already been transcribed by the enumerator into books. So that is an extra link that can go wrong as I expect most people were not the best at hand writing(as now)
Still all grist to the mill as they used to say!

Thanks again.
Peter