JAMES family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Marriages Jun 1848
JAMES Thomas Liverpool 20 193
Yates Mary Anderson Liverpool 20 193

Births Dec 1850
James William Vaughan Liverpool 20 424

Births Dec 1853
JAMES Charles Liverpool 8b 160

Births Jun 1854
JAMES Mary Anderson W Derby 8b 401

Births Sep 1857
James Joseph Bird Liverpool 8b 119

Births Sep 1859
JAMES Emily Martha W. Derby 8b 415

Births Jun 1862
JAMES Harriette Alice W Derby 8b _85

I'd like a look up for this family in 1861 please:

Thomas Francis JAMES b. abt 1833
spouse Mary b. abt 1833
and 5 children listed above

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

[davelambert271]

Hi dave
YATE, Mary Head Married F 40 1821 ... Manchester
JAMES, Mary Darson Granddaughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar West Derby Lancashire
JAMES, Joseph Ward Grandson Unmarried M 3 1858 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire
JAMES, Emily Martha Granddaughter Unmarried F 1 1860 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire

RG number:RG09
Piece:2731
Folio:44
Page:33

Registration District:West Derby
Sub District:6 West Derby
Enumeration District:23E

Civil Parish:West Derby
Municipal Borough:Liverpool
Address:315, Southdown Lane, West Derby, Liverpool

dave

[davelambert271]

Hi Dave
is this the parents and rest of the family?

JAMES, Thomas Head Married M 42 1819 Clothiers Cashier London Middlesex
JAMES, Mary Anderson Wife Married F 29 1832 Manchester Lancashire
JAMES, Thomas Francis Son M 11 1850 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire
JAMES, Wm Vanghan Son M 10 1851 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire
JAMES, Chas Richardson Son M 8 1853 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire

RG number:RG09
Piece:2672
Folio:67
Page:37

Registration District:Liverpool
Sub District:4 St George
Enumeration District:7
Ecclesiastical Parish:St George

Civil Parish:Liverpool
Municipal Borough:Liverpool
Address:11, St Georges Crescent, Liverpool
County:Lancashire

dave

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

Thank you very much. That 'Darson' should be Anderson. I wonder if 'Ward' should be Bird or perhaps I have the wrong birth for Joseph.

I wonder where the parents are? I think Thomas died about 1890. Age for Mary is way out. I think Mary was born about 1832 or 1833 and her sister Martha about 1826 or 1827.

Here they are in 1871:

1871
Civil parish Windlesham
RD Chertsey
Sub RD Chobham
Thomas Richardson head age 54 occ landowner 52 acres ------
Martha wife age 45
Martha H dau age 16
Mary A James sister in law widow age 39
Mary A James niece age 17
Emily M niece age 11
Harriette A niece age 8

-----
Marriages Mar 1852
Richardson Thomas Liverpool 8b 140
Yates Martha Anderson Liverpool 8b 140

Please see if you can find Mary and Martha YATES in 1851. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

Yes, thanks. That's the rest of the family and I was missing the eldest named after his father.

Regards,

Dave

[davelambert271]

Hi Dave
1851

JAMES, Thomas Head Married M 38 1813 Book Keeper London Middlesex
JAMES, Mary Anderson Wife Married F 20 1831 Liverpool Lancashire
JAMES, Thomas J Son M 1 1850 Liverpool Lancashire
JAMES, William N Son M 0 (4 MOS) 1851 Liverpool Lancashire
KENNIK, Susan Servant Unmarried F 18 1833 Home Servant Oxton Cheshire

RG number:HO107
Piece:2183
Folio:482
Page:6

Registration District:Liverpool
Sub District:Mount Pleasant
Enumeration District:1


Civil Parish:Liverpool
Municipal Borough:Liverpool
Address:87, Falkner Street, Liverpool
County:Lancashire

dave

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

Thank you very much. Yes they married in 1848 so I was a bit silly asking for this:

Please see if you can find Mary and Martha YATES in 1851. Thanks.

Not likely they would be together in 1851. Martha didn't marry until 1852 so where is she in 1851?

Regards,

Dave

[davelambert271]

Hi Dave - sort this lot out!!

1851

1851 England Census
about Martha Atherton
Name: Martha Atherton
[Martha Yates]
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Haigh, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
James Atherton 33 Coal miner
Martha Atherton 31 House keeper
Thomas Atherton 4 son
Margaret Atherton 2 son
William Atherton 36 Brother Wid
Ellen Atherton 13 dau
Sarah Atherton 10 dau
Thomas Yates 66 Father in Law, Wid, coal miner
Joseph Golding 11 Nephew
George Golding 10 Lodger
Benjamin Golding 6 Lodger

dave

[p.risboy]

Margaret Atherton 2 son.

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

Thanks for looking. I'd say that was a different Martha. Age is about 7 years out.

Please see if you can find Mary A b. abt 1832 & Martha b. avt 1827 together in 1841 as YATES. They should both be unmarried. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave