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Old 17th March 2017, 13:25   #11
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Re: Thomas & Jane(nee. Brown) King family. Oxfordshire.

Thanks MLT.

I'll be looking later on......again.

I'll have a few more other queries, but I have to go out and visit friends for St Patricks day, and no it doesn't involve drink.

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Re: Thomas & Jane(nee. Brown) King family. Oxfordshire.

John Williams1878, Towersey(Reg'd. Thame), son of William Williams & Sarah 'Smith', threw up a few problems, but solved most of them.

He married Amy Ludgate in 1903, Aylesbury District.

Children;
Alfred John Williams.
Born 9 FEB 1906, Towersey, Buckinghamshire
Died 22 JAN 1929, of Towersey Bucks.

Georgina Florence Williams
Born, 4 JUL 1904, Towersey, Buckinghamshire
DEATH 1973, London City, London.

Laura Williams
Born 27 JUN 1905, Towersey, Buckinghamshire
Died, June 1976 • Chiltern and Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, England.

She married Thomas Mills Le Pelley. in 1931 (Thame Reg dist), and more than likely divorced him, as her death reg is in her maiden name.

Thomas Mills Le Pelley.
Born, 18 APR 1901, Rusper Horsham, Sussex, England
Died, 2 AUG 1977 , Haddenham, Bucks.

Son, Thomas M Le Pelley, Born Mar 1936 • Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.
Married - Jean L Y Ditchburn in 1957, Aylesbury, District. (Place and d.o.b unknown).

Amy Ludgate's mother;

Georgeiana Jane Bates
Born, 8 MAY 1841, Stone, Buckinghamshire.
Died, Jan. 1895, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

Marriage

Aylesbury. 6 Apr 1863. by Banns
Thomas LUDGATE, aged 28, Bachelor of Aylebury, Shoemaker son of William Ludgate, Labourer
Georgiana Jane BATES, aged 22, Spinster of Aylesbury daughter of Moses Bates, Blacksmith.
Witnesses - Benjamin(x)Jeffries & Hannah(x)Ludgate.

Baptism.
Georgiana Jane Bates.
Birth, 8 May 1841
Baptism - 6 Jun 1841, @ Stone,Buckingham,England
Mother - Mary Bates
FHL Film Number. 1042440.

Marriage.
Aylesbury Marriage 18 Nov 1850
Moses MONK of full age, Bachelor of Aylesbury, Agriculturist son of John Monk, Agriculturist
Mary BATES of full age, Spinster of Aylesbury, House Servant daughter of Edmund Bates, Agriculturist
Witnesses - Joseph Brill & Sharlette? Monk.

So, did Georgiana Jane Bates tell fibs, or was Moses Monk her father, or adoptive father. (Known only as Jane Bates/Monk & Ludgate in the census ).

Questions..

1). Year,and place of birth for Jean L Y Ditchburn.

2). Where is Moses Monk, b 31 Aug 1810, Stone, Buckinghamshire, in the 1841 census. Died 1857, Northampron.

3). 1939 for Georgina Florence Williams. and Laura Le Pelly & Husband. (PM or email please. ).

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Re: Thomas & Jane(nee. Brown) King family. Oxfordshire.

Jean Ditchburn birth

Jean Y L Ditchburn Sep 1936 Aylesbury 3a 1929 mmn Harland

Probable marriage for parents

George L Ditchburn/Florence Harland Dec 1935 Aylesbury 3a 3141

Moses Monk

Can't find him in 1841 anywhere. Nor can I find a birth ref for Georgiana Jane. Not under Monk or Bates.

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Mary Bates bapt. 12 May 1816 Hartwell parents Edmund and Rebecca

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Edmund Bates/Rebecca Manning 21 May 1804 Stone
Edmund Bates/Lucy Millar 28 Dec 1826 Stone

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Re: Thomas & Jane(nee. Brown) King family. Oxfordshire.

Moses Monk & Mary(nee. Bates) had 3 sons born in Northampton, 2 died, one survived.

George Marshall Monk 1851-1851
Thomas Marshall Monk 1851 - 1854.
Thomas Monk 1855.

All baptised at Northampton, of Bridge Street, same address as in 1851 for parents. Moses, labourer or Pensioner.

Thomas Monk 1855. Northampton. Found in 1861 & 1871, but lost after that. Several Thomas Monks in later census, but none born Northampton, Northants.

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Re: Thomas & Jane(nee. Brown) King family. Oxfordshire.

No sign of him anywhere. I've looked at the Censuses, military and emigration and he doesn't appear. Nor can I see a death either.

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Thanks MLT.

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