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Old 5th February 2010, 14:56   #1
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Niblock/Lewis

I am tracing my husband's family in the Lancashire/Cheshire area.

I have:

William Henry Niblock
born Nov. 15th 1892 in Liverpool
died 1971 in Liverpool

married with

Millicent Victoria Lewis
born April 1897 in Birkenhead
died 1983 in Liverpool

marriage was 1915

At the moment I have ancestry access for one month and there I have found these dates.

It is said that Millicent's father was named Edward and it is also said he came from Paris, France. It must not be true ....


William Henry Niblock had a brother James. I found a Niblock family on the 1901 census that would fit. They had son William H. and James.

How can I find out if they are the right ones?

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

Hi,

Edwards pob in 1901 is given as Church Hulme, Cheshire.

The 1871 census as follows:-

Civil parish Twemlow
RD Congleton
Sub RD Church Hulme

John Lewis head age 56 occ blacksmith
Letisha wife age 47 born Altrinham
Caroline Cundell (transcribed as Candell) dau age 29 mar
Edward son age 23 occ blacksmiths asst
Thomas son age 14
Emily dau age 10
Ralph son age 7
Emily Jane Cundall g/dau age 18mths

All born Twemlow except John

Class RG10
Piece 3701
Folio 22
Page 3

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

There is a christening records for a Millicent Victoria Lewis, born abt 1897 chrisrtened 11 Jul 1897, place Tranmere, cheshire, but the parents are John and Martha Lewis. You will need to obtain the marriage certificate for Millicent and William which will have the fathers name and occupation.

Marriage

Year 1915

Millicent V Lewis
Oct/Nov/Dec 1/4
Vol 8b
Page 421
District Toxteth Park

Spouse/William H Niblock

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

1901 ------ 4, Forge Cottages, Toxteth Park

RG13 Piece: 3441 Folio: 112 Page: 9

LEWIS, Edward Head Married M 52 1849 General Smith
Twemlow
Cheshire
LEWIS, Martha Wife Married F 43 1858
Latchford
Lancashire
LEWIS, John R Son Single M 27 1874 Ships Engine Fireman
Warrington
Lancashire
LEWIS, Leonard Son Single M 14 1887
St Albans
Hertfordshire
LEWIS, Cyril Son M 10 1891
St Albans
Hertfordshire
LEWIS, Winifred B M Daughter F 9 1892
St Albans
Hertfordshire
LEWIS, Millicent V Daughter F 4 1897
B'head
Cheshire
LEWIS, Ruby F 2 1899
Lpool
Lancashire

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

Yes, the blacksmith John Lewis is the right one.

His daughter Millicent is my husband's grandmother and the names Winifred and Ruby rings a bell ....

In the 1851 census John Lewis mother Hannah is mentioned. At that time she was 60 years old. That means she was born around 1791.
I tried to find her death, but without success.

Thanks to all for your great help.

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

probable marriage of william henry niblocks parents,,based on the 1901 census.



Marriages Mar 1885
Holding Rebecca Toxteth Park 8b 373
Niblock William Toxteth Park 8b 373

from lancashire bmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
NIBLOCK William HOLDING/ Rebecca/ Toxteth Park, St. Michael Liverpool 2068TP/15/338

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

you have the 1851 census,,,,probable marriage of john..

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1843
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LEWIS John/ GARNER Letitia- Astbury, St Mary -Cheshire East -1007/2/286

the free bmd index is

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1843
GARNER Letitia Congleton 19 68

LEWIS John Congleton 19 68

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

probable marriage for edward lewis and martha

Marriages Dec 1873
Jones Martha W. Derby 8b 577
Lewis Edward West Derby 8b 577

and from lancs bmd so you know the place and church

JONES Martha/ LEWIS Edward/ Everton, St. Ambrose/ Liverpool

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

1911 Census 97 Rathbone Rd Wavertree
William Niblock 47 b Edge Hill Liverpool Engine Fitter L&NW Railway Co
Rebecca 46
Rebecca Elizabeth 23 b Edge Hill
William Henry 18 b Wavertree
James 16 b Wavertree
Elsie 13 b Wavertree
Lillian 11 b Wavertree
Annie 8 b Wavertree
married 26yrs, 9 children born alive, 7 alive, 2 died

On freeBMD birth
William Henry Niblock
GRO ref Dec qtr 1892 W Derby 8b 611

To check if this is the correct family look at the marriage certificate for William Henry Niblock and the fathers name should be on it. Or you could send for the birth certificate above and see if it's the correct birth date and see who his parents are. I think it's unlikley to be incorrect.

Marriage of William Niblock to Rebecca Holding
Mar qtr 1885 Toxteth Park 8b 373

1901 Census 4 Stevenson St Wavertree
William Niblock 37
Rebecca 36
Catherine A 14
Rebecca E 13
William H 9
James 5
Elsie 3
Lillian 1

1891 Census 27 Cambridge St Wavertree
William Niblock 26
Rebecca 25
Catherine A 4
Rebecca E 3

1881 Census Stevenson St Wavertree
James Niblock 44 b Liverpool
Alice A 36 b West Derby
William 16 b West Derby
Elizabeth 12 b West Derby
Agnes 4 b West Derby
Margaret Westhead daughter 19 b West Derby
George T Westhead son in law 23 b L'pool

marriage James Niblock to Alice Ann Owens
Jun qtr 1861 W Derby 8b 634

1871 Census One Street Wavertree
James Niblock 34
Alice A 26
Margaret 9
William 6
Elizabeth 2

1861 Census 92 Mann St Toxteth Park L'pool
James Niblock 60 b Co Down Ireland
Elizabeth 47 b Burscough Lancs
James 24 b L'pool
John 23 b Windsor L'pool
Elizabeth 13 b Edgehill L'pool
Ellen Foster niece 23 b Burscough

1851 Census Leyland St W Derby
James Niblick 48 b Ireland
Elizabeth 38 b Ormskirk
James 14 b L'pool
John 12 b L'pool
Elizabeth 3 b L'pool

1841 Census Hayton St Court Toxteth Park
James 38 b Ireland
John 2 b Lancs
Elizabeth 34 b Lancs
1841 Census Lords Gate Ormskirk Burscough
John Foster & Family
James Niblock 4 b Lancs

James Niblock married Elizabeth Foster 15 Sep 1833 St Nicholas L'pool (Familysearch)

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Re: Niblock/Lewis

Amazing!!!!

I have to sort it out .... but as far as I can see it is the right family.

Where can I obtain the birth certificate or marriage certificate of William Henry Niblock and/or Millicent Victoria Lewis?


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