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Old 12th January 2018, 06:47   #1
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John HOWAT

19 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of -
No. 177 1920 10th January
John Howat - Tailor - Casino - Bachelor - Stewarton Scotland - 29 - John Howat & Mary Robertson Wyllie - Ironmonger
Cecilia Rose Jenner - Tailoress - Casino - Spinster - Tenterfield New South Wales - 25 - John Jenner & Emily Annie White - Engineer
Married at St. Peter's East Sydney [Woolloomooloo] According to the rites of the Anglican Church
Parties signed: John Howat, Cecilia R Jenner
Witnesses signed: Jean Callinan, Chas W Morgan
By me F. W. Tugwell Officiating Minister

Service Record
Name HOWAT, JOHN
Service Australian Army
Service Number N393504
Date of Birth 5 Jul 1888
Place of Birth AYRSHIRE, SCOTLAND

Date of Enlistment 23 Jan 1942
Locality on Enlistment GLEN INNES, NSW
Place of Enlistment ADAMSTOWN, NSW
Next of Kin HOWAT, CECILIA
Date of Discharge 20 Dec 1948
Rank Sergeant
Posting at Discharge 1 SUP RES DEPOT
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Death 2396/1962 HOWAT JOHN - JOHN - MARY ROBERTSON - MARRICKVILLE * 2 Mar 1962


That's all I have so far. No arrival, no baptism, no census, nothing on his parents, so looking to fill those and for anything else on the two families.

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Re: John HOWAT

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41 Lainshaw Street, Stewart

John Howat born 1863 Cooper born Stewart
Mary wife born 1867 Stewart
Children
Martha 1887
John 1889
Ann 1891
William 1897
All born Stewart

RG13 no page or folio on FMP

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Re: John HOWAT

Thanks Barbara.

Not Assisted to NSW or Qld. or Vic. Not unassisted to Vic.

Marriage not on FS.

Baptism not on FS.

Can't see a death for Mary in NSW or Qld. or Vic. Can't see a death for John sen in NSW or Qld. or Vic.

Unassisted to NSW ?? Several J Howat in the index with no age or year of arrival.

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Re: John HOWAT

HOWAT
JOHN
M
1862
616/ 17
Stewarton

WYLLIE
MARY
F
1867
616/ 32
Stewarton

Marriage

HOWAT
JOHN
WYLLIE
MARY
1887
616/ 10
Stewarton

Children

HOWAT
MARTHA ROBERTSO
F
1887
616/ 17
Stewarton

HOWAT
JOHN
M
1888
616/ 61
Stewarton

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Re: John HOWAT

John
Last name Howat
Service number 96
Rank Private
Birth year 1889
Marital status Single
Occupation Tailor
Religion Presbyterian
Age at Embarkation 26
Embarkation year 1915
Embarkation date 09 Nov 1915
Embarkation regiment/unit 8th Infantry Brigade
Unit information 31st Infantry Battalion
Unit information 2 Machine Gun Section-Head-Quarters
Departure port Melbourne, Victoria
Ship name Hmat A62 Wandilla, A41 Bakara
Enlistment date 24 Jul 1915
Address Care Of Mrs Jenner, Holman-Street
City Casino
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Next of kin's first name(s) John
Next of kin's last name Howat
Relationship Father
Next of kin address -
Next of kin city Stewarton
Next of kin state AYRSHIRE
Next of kin country SCOTLAND
Record set Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll 1914-1918

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Re: John HOWAT

John is in London in 1911

John Howat
Age in 1911: 22
Born: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Warton, Ayr, Scotland
Civil Parish: St Pancras

County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 26 Ampthill Square, St Pancras N W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: LADIES TAILOR
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: West St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 652

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Re: John HOWAT

John's war record has a lot of detail, Dave. It is on Ancestry. Gives father's address as 17 Hodgkinson Street, Clifton Hill. Stewarton Ayr crossed out.

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Re: John HOWAT

Thanks Barbara.

I should be able to get the service record images on NAA (National Archives of Australia).

Title
HOWAT John : Service Number - 96 : Place of Birth - Ayr Scotland : Place of Enlistment - Brisbane Qld : Next of Kin - (Father) HOWAT John
Contents date range
1914 - 1920
Series number
B2455
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HOWAT J 96
Citation
NAA: B2455, HOWAT J 96
Item barcode
6994457
Location
Canberra
Access status
Open
Date of decision
13 Dec 2002
Physical format
PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Records authority class number
3891
Date registered
02 Aug 2002

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Re: John HOWAT

Clifton Hill is a Melbourne suburb.

The only death in Vic. BDM is a John Francis Howat in 1986 and that can't be John sen.

I can't see a death in Vic. that fits for Mary.

The earliest John Howat in electoral rolls in Vic. is John Francis in 1942.

John Howat 1908 Queensland Herbert

That can't be John junior born 1888.


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Mary Howat 1903 Victoria Melbourne

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Re: John HOWAT

HOWAT JOHN 2396/1962 JOHN - MARY ROBERTSON – MARRICKVILLE - 2 March 1962

Gov Gazette Fri 13 July 1962 – Will – John Howat retired Tailor to Cecilia Rose Howat
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HOWAT CECILIA ROSE 12680/1987 JOHN - EMILY ANNIE

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