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Old 4th January 2018, 04:43   #1
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John ROBERTS

1878 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of Sydney
No. 655 March 23rd 1878 St. Paul's Sydney
John Roberts - Widower - Caernarvon Wales - Furnaceman - 35 - Balmain - William Roberts & Alice - Quarry man
Amelia Hilder - Spinster - Camden N.S.W. - - - 35 - Camden - Moses Hilder & Elizabeth - Farmer
Married in the Church of St. Paul's [Cleveland St] According to the rites of Church of England
Parties signed: John Roberts, Amelia Hilder
Witnesses signed: Wm Hilder, Mary Ann Gittoes, Andrew Downey
By me John W. Debenham Officiating Minister

The Sydney Morning Herald - Mon 8 Apr 1878 p.1
MARRIAGES
ROBERTS - HILDER.-March 25, at St. Paul's Church, Redfern, by the Rev. J. W. Debenham, John Roberts of Balmain, to Amelia, second daughter of the late Moses Hilder of Camden.

I hope we now have enough info to trace the right John Roberts.

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Re: John ROBERTS

If John's first marriage was in NSW than there are 32x between 1860 and 1878.

Death 4678/1891 ROBERTS JOHN - WILLIAM - ALICE - CAMDEN * 11 Feb 1891

I can't find a family that fits in 1851. William a quarryman and Alice and son John born abt 1843.

25x John Roberts 1842 - 1844 in RD Carnarvon on FreeBDM

46x marriages for a William Roberts on FreeREG and no Alice.

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Re: John ROBERTS

Something to ponder...

1851
RD: Carnarvon
Sub-RD: Llandwrog
ED: 3a; Piece: 2515; Folio: 269; Page: 3

William Roberts 34 [b. Llanbeblig, Caernarvonshire. Quarryman]
Ala Roberts 36 [b. Llanhauam]
John Roberts 9 [b. Llanwnda]
Cathrine Roberts 7 [do]
Robert Roberts 5 [b. Llanrug]
William Roberts 3 [do]
Margaret Roberts 6 Mo [do]

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Re: John ROBERTS

Thanks Geoff.

I found one quarryman but wife didn't fit.

Llanwnda is in RD Carnarvon so 16x John.

ROBERTS, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 308

ROBERTS, JOHN ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in CARNARVON UNION Volume 27 Page 329

ROBERTS, JOHN MORRIS
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 290

ROBERTS, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 307

ROBERTS, JOHN OWEN
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 321

ROBERTS, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 337

ROBERTS, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 349

ROBERTS, JOHN WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 335

ROBERTS, JOHN ROBERTS
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 325

ROBERTS, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 335

ROBERTS, JOHN HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 322

Perhaps tracing a siblings instead.

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Re: John ROBERTS

Yeah, front runners for mother were Morris and Evans but still not confirmed, only Jones marriage I saw was after John's birth..

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Re: John ROBERTS

ROBERTS, CATHERINE JONES
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 327

ROBERTS, CATHERINE PRICHARD
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 349

ROBERTS, CATHERINE WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 324

ROBERTS, CATHERINE EVANS
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 317

ROBERTS, CATHERINE FOULKE
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 336

ROBERTS, CATHERINE WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 329

ROBERTS, CATHERINE HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 360

ROBERTS, CATHERINE THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 307

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Re: John ROBERTS

I don't have all year.

This will take until 10 pm tonight.

6x Margaret.

ROBERTS, MARGARET JONES
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 324

ROBERTS, MARGARET OWEN
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 332

ROBERTS, MARGARET PRICHARD
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 326

ROBERTS, MARGARET THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 303

ROBERTS, MARGARET THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 324

ROBERTS, MARGARET JONES
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 321

1851 30 March so really only three fit.

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Re: John ROBERTS

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I don't have all year.

This will take until 10 pm tonight.

5x Margaret.
Yeah, watching in awe, though there will still be no positive outcome

We need a middle name or some snippet that may help..

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Re: John ROBERTS

No William with mmn Thomas that fits.

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 311

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 358

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 359

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 381

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in CONWAY UNION Volume 27 Page 391

ROBERTS, WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in CARNARVON Volume 27 Page 287

I have checked the pob in census are in Carnarvon RD for the children.

7x Robert Roberts with mmn Jones.

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Re: John ROBERTS

Robert Roberts +/- 2y

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