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Old 12th October 2017, 12:01   #11
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Re: John COLEMAN

Margaret is the daughter of two convicts. We have looked at her in a previous topic.

Decided this time around to start with John and see if anything new was found. Yes - details from the trees I didn't have - not that I can confirm all of it.

Didn't have this:

Birth TURNER HARRIET A 5175/1864 JAMES CHARLOTTE BATHURST * 12 Feb

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Re: John COLEMAN

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Richard Coleman
Age22
Estimated Birth Year
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Father's Name
Richard Coleman
Mother's Name
Charlotte Coleman
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Where born
Appledore, Kent, England
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Appledore
Ecclesiastical parish
Canterbury

5 years before John born,gives us a 5 year emigration window

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Re: John COLEMAN

Thanks Ellie.

Appledore, Kent is new to me as is the name Richard.

All I had for Charles was age at death pointing to 1836 and no idea re pob or parents.

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8657/1872 COLEMAN CHARLES R CHARLES MARGARET CARCOAR
Have not followed any of the children so don't know if R = Richard.

I'll have to return to this tomorrow.

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Re: John COLEMAN

Margaret
Last name Coleman
Birth year
Death year1920
Registration year1920
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Registration district ortland
State New South Wales
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Father's first name(s)Thomas
Mother's first name(s)
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Nothing on trove, does father match
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Re: John COLEMAN

Something to ponder...

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Charles Coleman
Age: 23
Arrival Date: 28 Aug 1857
Vessel Name: Vocalist
Origin Location: Kilcommon, Tipperary, Ireland
[Image has; labourer, Kent. Possibly Appledore. Parents = Richard and Charlotte, living in Kent]

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Re: John COLEMAN

One of the trees has this, partial copy for ID purposes. Will send full copy, it can also be seen in the press Dec 64/Jan 65..
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Re: John COLEMAN

Thanks Ellie.

Yes, father is Thomas, a convict from Dublin.

Place is Portland which is east of Sunny Corner which is east of Bathurst.

Nothing in Trove or ACI.

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Re: John COLEMAN

Thanks Geoff.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 22 Feb 1865 p.5
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At the police court, yesterday, Thomas James Lodge and Thomas Jones, charged with receiving saddles from bushrangers, were remanded for eight days. Christina McKinnon and Ellen Monks, on remand, for assisting the bushrangers Hall, Gilbert, and Dunn to burn Mr. Morris's stores at Binda, were committed for trial. Margaret Monks, charged with the same offence, was discharged.

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Re: John COLEMAN

John Coleman b. 5 Mar 1866 Tuena, NSW

Not in the index and I have no way of confirming those details.

Father is probably Charles who married Margaret Monks but 1866 - 1872 is a large gap so Margaret may not be John's mother although 'Margaret' is listed on his death reg.


COLEMAN Charles 22 Vocalist 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2476, [4/4972]

Reel 2138 is on-line and just has Kent. Reel 2476 is at the State Library and will have more details including parents and if living then where.

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COLEMAN Charles 22 Vocalist 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2476, [4/4972]

Reel 2138 is on-line and just has Kent. Reel 2476 is at the State Library and will have more details including parents and if living then where.
Info in post #15 says parents living. Place looks like Appledore.. Do you want a copy of the image, Dave?

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