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Old 29th June 2017, 10:28   #1
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John WALL

Marriage 2756/1897 WALL JOHN - STOWE EMMA M - BALMAIN NORTH * 15 Apr 1897

1943 NSW Electoral Roll - Macquarie - Katoomba
WALL John, 237 Katoomba street, engine driver
WALL Emmie Mary, 237 Katoomba street, home duties

Death 19304/1943 WALL EMMA MARY - THOMAS - EMMA - KATOOMBA

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 4 Aug 1943 p.12
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WALL.-August 2, 1943, at her residence Excelsior, 237 Katoomba Street, Katoomba, Emmie Mary, beloved wife of John Wall, ...


Looking for John's death and any other details on him.

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Re: John WALL

Hi Dave,
1943 ER for Katoomba shows John Wall a engine driver with Emmie Mary at 237 Katoomba street – 1949 John’s there on his own.

Marriage of daughter Dorritt – SMH Wed 15 Jan 1930
PORRECA—WALL.—January 8, 1930, at St Stephen's Church, Sydney, by the Rev Hugh Paton, Oliviero, only son of the late Captain P. Porreca, Professor at the Royal Military Academy, Turin (Italy), and Signora Anna Porreca, of Genoa, to Dorritt, only daughter of Mr and Mrs J. Wall, of Carara, Cambridge-road, Drummoyne, Sydney.

The Blue Mountains Advertiser – Thur 22 June 1950
WALL. — In loving memory of my dear Father, John Wall who passed away peacefully in his sleep,- 27th June. 1949. Thus do I walk with him and keep unbroken,The bond which nature gives, Thinking that my remembrance though unspoken, May reach him where he lives. Inserted by his loving daughter, Dorritt Porreca, Excelsior, 237 Katoomba St.

Not knowing the area for registration - 2 x deaths on NSW BMD.. (Trove has one for May age 67 in Newcastle paper a blacksmith..)

WALL JOHN 11508/1949 JOHN - JANE SAUNDERS – MANLY

WALL JOHN 12512/1949 SAMUEL – SELENA - MAYFIELD

Dec Estate - Name: John Wall – granted 11 Feb 1958
Residence Place: Collaroy
Death Date: 28 Jun 1949
Occupation: Engine Driver

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Re: John WALL

Thanks Val.

I thought that one would be really tough.


Mayfield is Newcastle so that looks out.

Manly is a seaside suburb just north of Sydney.

Ok, Collaroy is just north of Manly.

Probate took a long time.

My grandfather's took 20 years.


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Re: John WALL

Death WALL JOHN 11508/1949 JOHN - JANE SAUNDERS – MANLY

Normally in NSW index the maiden name is not included, so is that a middle name?

No marriage in NSW, Qld. or Vic. index.

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Re: John WALL

One of those long shots, based on a limited number of Jane Saunders X...

1871
County: Cornwall
RD: Penzance
Sub-RD: St Ives
ED: 8; Piece: 2334; Folio: 48; Page: 3

John Wall 39 [Shipwright]
Jane Sanders Wall 36
John Wall 10
Margaretta Wall 8
Phillis Joegarthen Wall 5
Jane Lany Wall 6
Mary Stevens Wall 6 Months
[All b. St Ives]
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WALL, JOHN
mmn = LANG
1861 Q2 in PENZANCE
Vol 05C, Page 343
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Marriages Q3 1860
James Mary
Lang Jane
Smith Peter Bryant
Wall John
Penzance
5c 405

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EDIT: There is a Margaret Lang [68] wid, ret baker living next door in 1871.

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Re: John WALL

NSW Unassisted, 1826-1922
John Wall
Age: 53
Departure: Plymouth
Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Arrival Date: 25 Oct 1885
Vessel: Aberdeen
[Image has occ = carpenter. With Jane 50, Anne 11, Ellen < 11]

1881 family have Annie 6, Ellen 4. RD: Penzance; Piece: 2342; Folio: 4; Page: 2

Not sure where others are, unless traveled as singles..

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EDIT: Will stop there in case wrong family..

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Re: John WALL

Thanks Geoff.

I'll see what I can add to that. Family members 15 ? and over usually listed with the singles.

This is the Assisted list from NSW Records

WALL John 53 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney and family. Arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Jane 50 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney and family. Arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Anne 11 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney and family. Arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Ellen 8 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney and family. Arrived October Reels 2143, 2496

Cornwall - Carpenter - Methodist

WALL John 23 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Margaret 22 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Phillis 19 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Jane 17 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney arrived October Reels 2143, 2496
WALL Mary 14 Aberdeen 1885 Sydney arrived October Reels 2143, 2496

Voyage 47 days - Total 650 equivalent to 554 1/2 statute adults

I can look up reel 2496 next week but being after 1881 and a large 'S S' vessel there may not be the usual details re parents.

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Re: John WALL

Now to prove it's the right family.

Death WALL JANE S 14637/1907 THOMAS - MARGARET - MURWILLUMBAH


FS has Jane's initial as S

1851
Piece: HO107/1917 Place: Uny Lelant -Cornwall ED: 2f
Civil Parish: St. Ives Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 450 Page: 20 Schedule: 2
Address: Back Road
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LANG Peggy Head W F 47 Baker Cornwall - St Ives
LANG Jane T. Dau U F 16 Cornwall - St Ives
LANG William Son U M 13 Shoemaker Cornwall - St Ives
LANG Walter S. Son - M 11 Scholar Cornwall - St Ives

LANG, WALTER SANDERS - SANDERS
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 156

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1841
Piece: HO107/144/5 Place: Penwith -Cornwall ED: 2
Civil Parish: St. Ives Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 24 Page: 13
Address: Back Road
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LANG Peggy F 35 Widow (Crossed Out) Cornwall
LANG Thomas M 11 Cornwall
LANG Jane F 6 Cornwall
Page: 25/14
LANG William M 4 Cornwall
LANG Walter M 2 Cornwall
SANDERS Mary F 25 Lodger (Crossed Out) Cornwall

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Re: John WALL

https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealog...h=Web+Property

No deaths for several in that tree.

Death in tree makes no sense. Neither parent matches and there is a middle initial.

Death WALL JOHN J 8785/1893 EDWARD ELIZABETH - WEST MAITLAND

WALL John J Death notice 08MAR1893 Death late of West Maitland Maitland Mercury 22APR1893

Young man, John James Wall drowned.

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