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Old 4th October 2017, 01:01   #1
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Scott - Donegal

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Richard Scott b. abt 1847 Ireland
married : Annie McGown/McGowan Approx May 1866, Mt Charlres, Inver, Donegal
Richard Scott d. 25 December 1909, at 268 Main Street Bellshill, Scotland son of Richard Scott & Susan Crow.

I have not been able to find the birth of Richard, or the marriage of Annie & Richard in Donegal nor a birth or Death for Annie and have had no luck locating Richards parents either.

The marriage details have come from Richard & Annie children birth certificates and Richards parents names have come from Richards death certificate , son was the informant.

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Re: Scott - Donegal

There is this one but can't find a match for an Ann/Anne/Annie.

Name RICHARD SCOTT
Date of Event 1864
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Donegal
Returns Year 1864
Returns Quarter 1
Returns Volume No 17
Returns Page No 46

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Re: Scott - Donegal

After some more digging and scratching around I think I've dug myself into another hole

Located a death for a Honor Scott widow of Robert Scott, coal miner in 1923, age 84 yrs....
the witness son Richard Scott.

place of death is 8 John Street, Bellshill, Lanark

Richard Scott jnr, is living at this same address in 1912 when he married a Bridget Sands, but his age is listed as 36 yrs (dob 1876) The birth record I have is 1873.

So my problem now is has Annie become Honor McGown and husband Richard snr has become a Robert ...

Then Ive got the birth year difference for their son Richard jnr 1873-1876,

Family notes that I have kept, say that Annie definitely should be an Annie McGowan and same goes for Richard Scott snr......
and that their son Richard jnr never married

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Re: Scott - Donegal

Large number of deaths in Lanark for an Annie Scott.

Looking at deaths in Bellshill for McGown/McGowan and Scott there are several but all too young if age is correct.

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Re: Scott - Donegal

Another son of McGown & Scott (Joseph)

Marriage doc for 1901, Bothwell, Lanark
Joseph marries Annie Bell

has parents listed as Robert Scott coal miner & Annie Scott ( McGown)

Both parents would have been alive when Joseph got married.

So something definitely going on with my Annie aka Honor McGown and Richard aka Robert Scott snr

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Just checked the signature of informant ( Richard jnr.) on death docs for the Honor Scott 1923 I just found and Richard Scott in 1909, exactly the same

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Re: Scott - Donegal

Have you got daug.Catherine Scott 18 Nov 1869 ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name Richard Scott Mother's Name Annie Mcgown .

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Re: Scott - Donegal

SCOTT
CATHERINE

0
MCGOWN
1870 644/8 825
Anderston

I would try for a POOR RELIEF record at

http://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/librar...s/default.aspx


Edit -also
SCOTT
MARY ANN
Age 3
MCGOWN
1870
644/8 830
Anderston

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Re: Scott - Donegal

Catherine Scott
Gender Female
Birth Date 18 Nov 1869
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Richard Scott
Mother's Name Annie Mcgown


Mary Ann Scott
Gender Female
Birth Date 30 Apr 1867
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Richard Scott
Mother's Name Annie Mcgown


Richard Scott
Gender Male
Birth Date 13 Dec 1873
Birthplace ANDERSTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Richard Scott
Mother's Name Annie Mcgown


They now send poor relief online .

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Re: Scott - Donegal

I would check this one out

SCOTT
RICHARD
Age 62
death 1909
625/3 246
Bellshill

Edit- 1911 Census

SCOTT
RICHARD
1911
M
Age 36
625/3 15/ 1
Bellshill Lanark

SCOTT
RICHARD 1911
F 76
625/3 7/ 9
Bellshill
Lanark

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Re: Scott - Donegal

Hello Ellie,

Yes I have got all the children + Joseph b 1877 and a William b 1871 birth docs and the 1909 death doc of Richard aka Robert snr. Each childs record has were parents were married in Inver, Mt Charles, Donegal, May 1866, the actual day is between the 14 & 17th....


Thanks for the info on poor relief, not thought of that possibility, but if the doc that I have on Annie aka Honor is the correct person which I'm thinking it is then she would have been a widow for 14 years, on her own and no income.....

Just confusing me a little with this name variation I'm getting.....

Also thank you for the 1911 Census on Richard jnr. Looks as if he is on his own, and this would have been just before the marriage I found with him and Bridget Sands in 1912.

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