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John CULLEN

Bap V1839650 121A/1839 CULLEN JOHN HUGH CATHERINE

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Roman Catholic Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of East Maitland in the County of Northumberland in the Year 1839
No. 650 When Baptised: 23rd February 1839 When Born: 12th January 1839 John - Hugh Cullen & Catherine Martin Abode: Wollombi Quality or Profession: Wheelwright By whom the Ceremony was performed: E. Mahony R.C.C.

Trying to show that is the same John as these

Marriage 290/1869 CULLEN JOHN - MYLETT MARGARET SYDNEY * 23 Mar

Death 10342/1904 CULLEN JOHN 67 YRS CAMPERDOWN NEWTOWN

Not RC but wife Margaret is buried RC

JOHN CULLEN Age 67 - 29/06/1904 Zone B 04 2931

Cullen Margaret Age 85 06/05/1924 SEC*M2*N**2078 Burial

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Re: John CULLEN

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CULLEN JOHN 549/1856 V1856549 120

CULLEN JOHN 1127/1847 V18471127 116

I'll try to look those up tomorrow.

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Re: John CULLEN

This any help?

Births
CULLEN THOMAS 588/1848 V1848588 66 HUGH CATHERINE

CULLEN HUGH 1073/1846 V18461073 63 HUGH CATHERINE

CULLEN MARY 1656/1844 V18441656 62 HUGH CATHERINE

CULLEN JAMES 2579/1841 V18412579 121A HUGH CATHERINE

CULLEN JOHN 650/1839 V1839650 121A HUGH CATHERINE

Death
CULLEN JOHN T 6432/1869 HUGH CATHERINE WELLINGTON

CULLEN JOHN T 4774/1869 HUGH CATHERINE MUDGEE

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Tue 27 Apr 1869

etc Hugh Cullen identified the body as that of his brother, etc

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60834087

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Re: John CULLEN

Thanks gibbo.

I have the image of one baptism so not sure it will help to get the images of the others.

Knowing siblings of John born 1839 could help if they are traced.

Funeral notice of 1904 only mentions children.

I have nothing at the moment that points to the 1839 birth as being correct. Age at death is a bit out. No parents on death reg so informant may or may not have the right age.

No image found yet of the 1869 marriage. If by chance it is RC and Sydney St. Mary's then there are films at the State Library.

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Re: John CULLEN

RC baptism in 1839 so if we rule out the 1869 marriage and the 1904 death because the burial was CofE then we need to be sure by finding a RC burial with an age that fits the 1839 birth.

I'll look up the 1848 baptism and check the abode.

The two burials in post#2 are RC. I can tell by the Volume no.

We have Hunter with Maitland and out west with Wellington and Mudgee and inner Sydney with Newtown.

The only tree found so far has a Hugh and Catherine in NZ but dates don't fit.

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Re: John CULLEN

Name: Hugh Cullen
Age: 28
Birth Year: Abt 1809
Spouse: Cathe Martin
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 5 Jan 1837
Name: Hugh Cullen convict life arrived on Hercules b 1809
Age: 28
Birth Year: Abt 1809
Spouse: Cathne Martin free arrived Northumberland 1835 b 1811
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 19 Jan 1837

Name: Hugh Cullen
Arrival date: 1830
Vessel: Hercules
Province: New South Wales
Title: Convicts arrived
Year(s): 1828-1832
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808

Name: Hugh Cullen
Age: 22
Date of Conviction: 17 Mar 1830
Place of Conviction: Queens County
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Vessel: Hercules (3)
Port of Arrival: Sydney Cove
Date of Arrival: 1830

1841 a Hugh was in Newcastle Jail NSW

Dec 1845 Maitland Mercury - Cullen Hugh, Hercules, stealing; Wollombi bench.

NSW Gov Gazette Fri 6 March 1846
Hugh Cullen, Hercules, Principal Superintendent of Convicts; absconding.

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Re: John CULLEN

Thanks Val.

Burials

CULLEN JOHN 549/1856 V1856549 120 * 5 mo George St Sydney

CULLEN JOHN 1127/1847 V18471127 116 * 4 years Bathurst


Bap CULLEN THOMAS 588/1848 V1848588 66 HUGH CATHERINE

RC Parish of Hartley in the County of Cook * a long way from Maitland but not as far as Mudgee

Hugh Cullen, Carpenter & Catherine Martin

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Re: John CULLEN

Nothing yet that shows John son of Hugh and Catherine was the one who married Margaret Mylett.

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