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Old 4th February 2017, 08:51   #1
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Minnie LILLEY

Births Sep Qtr 1880 LILLEY Minnie Theresa - Marylebone 1a 640 mmn MOORE ?

Place: Hampstead, St. Stephen the Martyr
Date of Baptism: 3 July 1881
Date of Birth: 12 August 1880
Parents: William and Emmeline
Address: 8 Hensbridge Place ?

1881
RG11 Piece 163 Folio 12 Page 17
Civil Parish: St. Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-RD: St John
ED: 14a
No of Schedule: 67D
Address: 2 Woronzow Terr
LILLEY William Head Mar 26 Painter Marylebone Middlesex
LILLEY Emmeline Wife Mar 24 Troston Suffolk
LILLEY Minnie Dau 8mo Marylebone Middlesex

Have I got the right William? Have I got the right marriage?

Births Jun Qtr 1854 LILLY William Walter - Strand 1b 400 mmn CROCKER ?

Marriages Jun 1881 Barnet 3a 275
LILLY William Walter & WHENT Emmeline

Marriages Mar 1891 Kensington 1a 149
EPPRETT Charles Frederick & LILLEY Emmeline


Deaths Jun 1932 EPPRETT Emmeline 75 Camberwell 1d 688

Looking for Emmeline in 1911.

Something is wrong but I can't see it at the moment.

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Emmeline Whent was born after her parents married and her mmn was GRIGGS.

If that is the right marriage in 1881 after Minnie was born then I'd expect Whent as mmn or no mmn but why Moore?

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

RG14PN2463

39, Marsden Road, E. Dulwich, Camberwell

Edward T Bone 36 Clerk Engineers Greenwich
Minn9ie T Bone wife 30 St Johns Wood
Theresa R dau 5 E Dulwich
Emmeleine M dau 4 E Dulwich
Miriam A dau 2 E Dulwich
Emmeline Epprett Mother in Law Widow 54 House Keeper Broadmere Suffolk

Married 6 years 3 children all living

Marriage

Edward Templecombe Bone/Minnie Theresa Lilley Dec 1904 Pancras 1b 43

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Thanks Emeltee.

No problems there.

Have I got the right William Lilly/Lilley?

Looks as though baptism for Minnie was after the 1881 marriage.

Ruth nee Griggs.

1871
RG10 Piece 1715 Folio 22 Page 4
Civil Parish: Bures
County: Essex
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-RD: Bures
ED: 4
No of Schedule: 24
Address: Hamlet of Bures
Ruth Whent Head Wid 38 Bures St Mary Suffolk
John Whent Son 17 Butcher's Lab Bures Essex
Emeline Whent Dau 14 Scholar Bures Essex

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

There is this marriage

William Lilly/Emily Moore Dec 1879 Marylebone 1a 1047

Can't see a death for Emily so do we have two Walter Lilly/Lilley's?
Somehow I don't think so. I think Minnie is the daughter of William and Emily, that Emily possibly died in childbirth and Walter married again to Emmeline.

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Thanks Emeltee.

Lots of William Lilly/Lilleys born around 1854.

Late baptism for Minnie with the name of William's 2nd wife?

I don't have the date of the 1881 marriage.

Pob for Emmeline varies through the census.

William Walter Lilly b. 4 Jun 1854
Christening Date 25 Jun 1854
Christening Place SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS,WESTMINSTER,LONDON
Father's Name Robert Lilly
Mother's Name Jane [Crocker]

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Deaths Mar 1883 LILLEY William 28 Kensington 1a 45 ??

Does not seem to fit. Expected death for William around 1890. Age 26 in 1881.

Marriages Mar 1891 Kensington 1a 149
EPPRETT Charles Frederick & LILLEY Emmeline

Deaths Mar 1892 EPPRETT Charles 32 Marylebone 1a 549

Any occupation for William in 1881 bap for Minnie?

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Emmeline is proving to be a problem as well. In 1911 Census she gives pob as Broadmere Suffolk but I can't find a Broadmere in Suffolk.

FreeBMD has a birth

Emmeline Whent Dec 1856 Sudbury 4a 350 and Gro has mmn as Griggs. I can't find a Whent/Griggs marriage. (Sudbury is on the Suffolk/Essex border)

Can't find Emmeline in 1861 and in 1871 she's living with her grandparents, no sign of parents.

I've tried the Suffolk Baptism list on fmp but no sign of her nor do they have a possible Whent/Griggs marriage.

Will keep trying!

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

Sorry, just spotted that you have a different Emmeline in 1871 - I can't believe that there are two of them!

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Re: Minnie LILLEY

1861
RG9 Piece 1128 Folio 69 Page 12
Civil Parish: Bures
County: Essex
Registration District: Sudbury
Sub-RD: Bures
ED: 4
No of Schedule: 68
Address: Hamlet St, Colchester Rd
[Transcribed as Wikert on A... and Willert on FMP]
Ruth Whent Head Widow 27 Pauper Bures St Mary Suffolk
Charlotte Ann Whent dau 9 Scholar Bures St Mary Suffolk
John Whent son 7 Scholar Bures Hamlet Essex
Mary Ann Whent dau 6 Scholar Bures Hamlet Essex
Emiline Whent dau 4 Scholar Bures Hamlet Essex

This one of my easier ones. Well, it falls in the middle.

Ruth GRIGGS c. 9 Jun 1833 Bures St. Mary, Suffolk
Henry GRIGGS & Charlotte
Batch: C132501

Marriages Dec 1851 Sudbury 12 899
WHITE William & GRIGGS Ruth

Marriages Jun 1875 Sudbury 4a 623
HARVEY John & WHEAT Ruth

Troston, Suffolk and Bures, Essex. So I have the wrong Emmeline?

Bures St. Mary, Suffolk & Bures, Essex.


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