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Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Baptism - Thomas Newington Newbury - 22 Mar 1786 - Parish St. Mary Hampton - Born Feb 26th [father = John]

1.
Thomas Newington Newbery & Ann Ledges Benfield
13 Oct 1805 St. Bride Fleet St, London
Batch: M022421

2.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thoms Newington Newbery
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Moore
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 26 Dec 1830
Parish: St. Mary, Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Martha Elizabeth Newbery b. 7 Apr 1831
baptism/christening date: 15 Apr 1832 St. Matthew Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Thomas Newington Newbery & Elizabeth
Batch: C046984

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 1086/6 Folio 42 Page 27
Civil Parish: St. George the Martyr Southwark
County: Surrey
Registration District: St. George Southwark
ED:
Address: Gray St, London Rd
Thomas Newbery 55 Labourer N
Susan Newbery 45 N
Martha Newbery 10 N
James Barkwirh 60 Labourer Ireland
Richd Motts 14 N

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thomas Newington Newbery
Age: 55
Spouse Name: Susanna Fruit Motz [my note - Widow]
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1845
Parish: St. George the Martyr
County: Middlesex [Surrey]
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Newbery
Spouse Father Name: Michael Motz [my note - PENNELL]

Living with Susan in 1841. The marriage delayed until 1845 for death of Elizabeth or death of Richard Motz??

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Deaths Mar Qtr 1852
NEWBERRY Thomas Newton St Geo South 1d 126

Deaths Mar Qtr 1869
Newbury Susan 74 Poplar 1c 493

Susanna c. 18 Oct 1795 Stoke Damerel, Devon
Michael PENNELL & Jane
Batch: C052422

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Date an error?
Thomas Newington Newbery
Spouse: Susannah Motz
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 7 Nov 1841 ?
Parish: St. George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register


Looking for the death of Elizabeth nee Moore.

Also looking for any info on Richard John MOTZ - baptism, death ...

On 18 May 1813, Susannah PENNELL and Richard MOTZ married at Stepney, St. Dunstan and All Saints.

Married May 18 1813
Richd. Motz Ratf Bachr. [Hamlet of Ratcliff]
Susannah Pennel of same Spinster
Banns
2 1
9 2
16 3


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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Can't find anything re Richard Motz/Susannah other than the baptisms of the following children

Susannah Elizabeth 1817 Deptford. Abode Hughes Field. Father's occupation Waterman

Esther 1823 Died aged 13 months 1825 Abode 64 Hughes Fields

Richard Michael James 1827 Abode Lower Watergate.

John William 1830 Abode Lower Watergate Died aged 3 yrs 4 mths 1834 Abode New Street, Deptford name given as John William (William) so I presume he was known as William rather than John.

All baptisms have Richard as a Waterman. Info on FreeReg2

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Thanks Emeltee.

I had 3 from FS but not Esther.

It has not been of help to me but Richard signed as R. John.

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MARRIAGES Solemnized in the Parish of St. Dunstan Stepney in the County of Middlesex in the Year 1813
No. 148
Richard Motz of this Parish and Hamlet of Ratcliff Bachelor
Susannah Pennell of this parish and same Hamlet Spinster
were married in this Church by Banns this Eightenth Day of May 1813
By me Charles Henrick ? Presil ? Mill ? Curate
Both signed (R. John Motz, Susannah Pennell)
Witnesses: Thomas Burch, Charlotte Pennell

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Richard Maly
Spouse: Susannah Pennell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 May 1813
Parish: Stepney St. Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Motz, Maly, Motts, Moss, ... seen so far.

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Have also found the following

Thames Watermen Binding Records

Richard John Matz (their spelling)
Place Shadwell
Bound Date 26 Jan 1809
Dtae Free 9 May 1816
Master William Carvin

Thames Watermen Reassignments
Year 1809
Bound Date 26 Jan 1809
Masters Name Michael Pennell

I'm presuming this is a form of apprenticeship and it looks like he married the bosses daughter.

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Thanks Emeltee.

That's an interesting bit to add to my tree.

Don't know about this one:

County Surrey
Place Walton-on-Thames
Church name St Mary
Register type Transcript
Burial date 19 Oct 1837
Person age 30
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname MOTT
Burial person abode Harrogate
Witness
Witness
Register note Coroner's inquest
Transcriber notes

Age rules that one out.

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Possible baptism

Richard John Matz 20 Jan 1793 London parents John and Mary

Siblings George 1789, John Henry 1787, Mary 1791.

Still nothing on a death.

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Re: Thomas Newington NEWBERY

Thanks Emeltee.

I'm wondering why the marriage was not until 1845.

Richard probably died before 1841, maybe closer to 1830. Greater chance Elizabeth nee Moore was still alive.

Lots of burials in London and surrounding counties for a Richard and a John Motts.

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