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Old 6th November 2014, 08:08   #1
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John LEEDER

1851
Piece 1791 Folio 537 Page 20
John Leeder
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Elmswell, Suffolk
Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor
Schedule Type: Household

Reuben Leeder c. 26 Nov 1815 Suffolk County BTS, Suffolk
John Leeder & Elizabeth

Reuben is married and in Essex in 1841.

I'd like a look up please for that household. Also for John in 1841. Spouse was Elizabeth.

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Re: John LEEDER

Hi Dave,

1851

HO107/1791/f537

Stanton Park, Stanton All Saints

Reg District Thingoe

James Foreman 46 Gamekeeper Cufford
Maria Foreman 45 wife Woolpit
James Foreman 16 son Assistant Gamekeeper Milford
John Leeder 55 Visitor Ag Lab Elmswell

I can only find one James Leeder of the right age in 1841 and his wife isn't Elizabeth so he may not be your man

1841

HO107/1023/8/F10

Magdalen Street, Eye

Reg District Hartismere

John Leeder 45 Ag Lab Yes
Mary Leeder 45 Yes
Susan Leeder 15 Yes
Shadrick Leeder 14 Yes

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Re: John LEEDER

Hello Emeltee,

Thank you very much. Born Elmswell would fit although I have nothing yet to say he was born there. No others appear in the 1851 search for a John the right age in FS.

I don't have the marraige yet but it is John and Elizabeth from the 1815 baptism of son Reuben. One of the problems is the 4 variations of the name Linder/Lander/Leader/Leeder

Fanny Leeder c. 6 Aug 1843 Great Ilford,​ Essex
Ruben Leeder &​ Martha

Martha Leader c. 4 May 1845 Great Ilford,​ Essex
Ruben Leader & Martha

From the 1848 shipping record Elizabeth had died and John was living in 'Amswell' = Elmswell - that is RD Stow.

This is probably his death.

Deaths Sep 1855
Leader John Stow 4a _9_ ?

That may or may not be the right John in 1851.

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Re: John LEEDER

I just found this post during a Google search, so I joined so I can respond.

The John Leeder you found in the 1851 census is most definitely the father of Reuben Leeder/Leader (1815-1888 ). This is my family, and I have quite a few letters and documents relating to them.

John Leeder was married in Elswell, Suffolk in 1815 to Elizabeth Wright, widow (nee Elizabeth Finton or Fenton). John (born c1794) was considerably younger than Elizabeth (born 1775). They had two other children apart from Reuben, Ann Leeder (b 1813) and Maria Leeder (baptised 1815 on the same day as Reuben, but not necessarily a twin.)

John was originally a carpenter but later worked as a farm labourer. On his marriage, he's described as "John Leeder Jr., meaning that his father was also called John)

I'll digout my notes and see what else I can find for you.

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Re: John LEEDER

Hello and to the Forum.



Thanks for the info. This is way out on a branch of my tree so I'm not related to Leeder family.

In my tree because of this marriage:

Wesleyan Marriages in the Goulburn Circuit
Frederick William Newbery
Mary Ann Furner
10 June 1848 at Goulburn By me William Lightbody
Witnesses: Philip Steer of Goulburn, Charles Furner of Goulburn


John in 1841 seems to be the only query remaining.


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Re: John LEEDER

John Leeder in the 1841 census is as follows:

HO 107/323/5

Enumeration District 7
County: Essex
parish of Barking Barking
Great Ilford Ward

John Leeder 40 Ag Lab N
James Thredder 20 do. Y
Robert Moore 30 Dealer Y
Willm Moore 8 - N

The family moved to Ilford prior to Reuben sailing for Australia.
John's wife Elizabeth died at Ilford in 1838.

I can send you a copy of the census page if you want it.

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Re: John LEEDER

Thanks.

The transcription is fine.

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