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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

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Glebe or Leichhardt/Belmore/Canterbury ??
WHITE Elizabeth
WHITE Samuel Robert

Glebe/Woollahra/Paddington ??
WHITEMAN Edward Butcher
1907 Sands Directory
Samuel R White 11 Balmain rd Leichhardt

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 15 December 1928 p.16
DEATHS
WHITE.-December 14, 1928, at Weymouth, Kent-street, Belmore, Elizabeth, dearly loved wife of Samuel Robert White, and mother of Samuel, Charles, and Harry, aged 66 years.


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1912 Sands Directory
Edward Whiteman 73 Bridge rd, Glebe

1915 Sands Directory
E.B. Whiteman 38 Gurner st, Paddington.

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

NEWTOWN - ERSKINEVILLE
White Elizabeth 110 Union-street domestic duties
White Henry James Harold 110 Union-street electrician
White Samuel Robert 110 Union-street butcher

GLEBE - DERBY PLACE
Whiteman Edward Butcher University hotel saw-sharpener

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

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RG11 Piece 4852 Folio 110 Page 14
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire (North Riding)
Registration District: Middlesbrough
Address: 13 Black St
James Harold Head Mar M 54 Night Watchman Heath, Worcestershire
Eliza Harold Wife Mar F 53 Leominster, Herefordshire
Elize Harold dau F 23 Machine Feeder (Mid) Scotland
Esther Harold dau F 19 Book Stitcher (Binder) Middlesbro, Yorkshire
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James Harrold 45 Ironworker + no name for wife 43, Elizabeth age 19 and Esther age 17 13 Black St Middlesboro on Tees Yorks Uk passage paid by Joel Bebb - obviously no one came as another put through from Joel is just for Lizzie 21 and Esther 18 from Yorkshire arrived on
'Nineveh' Arrived 22 Sep 1881
Lizzie 22 D Servant Lanark James & Eliza Lanark Presby Both Father Sydney
Esther 18 D Servant Durham James & Eliza Lanark Presby Both Father Sydney

Did Samuel Robert marry sisters?

Marriage 560/1882 BEBB JOEL - HARROLD ESTHER - SYDNEY ** 25 Apr

Marriage 4777/1882 WHITE SAMUEL ROBERT - HAROLD ELIZABETH - LITHGOW ** 4 Dec

Marriage 1417/1932 WHITE SAMUEL R - BEBB ESTHER - ROCKDALE

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

Maiden name for Elizabeth and her parents ? Parents for James ?

Accurate ages for James & Elizabeth. If the deposit journal is correct the ages in 1881 are way out.

Births Sep Qtr 1861
HARROLD Esther Stockton 10a 29

I can't find the family in 1871.

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

Arrival for James before 22 Sep 1881. Did Elizabeth arrive?

Deaths for both. ??

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Did Samuel Robert marry sisters?

Marriage 560/1882 BEBB JOEL - HARROLD ESTHER - SYDNEY ** 25 Apr

Marriage 4777/1882 WHITE SAMUEL ROBERT - HAROLD ELIZABETH - LITHGOW ** 4 Dec

Marriage 1417/1932 WHITE SAMUEL R - BEBB ESTHER - ROCKDALE

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Can't see any evidence to disprove it.

DEATHS
17308/1928 WHITE ELIZABETH JAMES ELIZABETH CANTERBURY
2409/1931 BEBB JOEL JOHN MARY A KOGARAH
11949/1938 WHITE SAMUEL ROBERT ROBERT
17215/1943 WHITE ESTHER JAMES ELIZA BURWOOD

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Friday 23 January 1931
Funeral of Joel Bebb mentions S R White [brother-in-law] Mrs H Hendren [daughter]

New South Wales Will Books 1800-1952 Transcription
First name(s) Esther
Last name White
Death year 1943
Death date 14 Sep 1943
Occupation Widow
Residence Sydney NSW
Instrument Will
Will number 284607
Record set New South Wales Will Books 1800-1952
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Subcategory Wills & probate
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Daughter Mabel Esther Hendren (nee Bebb)

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) 15 September 1943
WHITE (BEBB)-September 14, 1943, at
her daughter's residence 27 Devonshire Street,
Croydon, Esther beloved mother of Harold,
(deceased), Harry (deceased), Percy (deceased),
and Mabel (Mrs H Hendren), aged 81 years.

Age fits 1881 arrival.

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

Birth years close match to the 1881 census


Inscription for James Harold
Cemetery: Lithgow NSW
Inscription Id: 8441447
Surname: Harold
Given Names: James
Birth Date: 1826?
Death Date: 23 Aug 1899
Age: 73
Gender: M
Portion: MthO
Row: 18
Spouse Name: Eliza

Inscription for Eliza Harold
Cemetery: Lithgow NSW
Inscription Id: 8441448
Surname: Harold
Given Names: Eliza
Birth Date: 1827?
Death Date: 3 Aug 1907
Age: 80
Gender: F
Portion: MthO
Row: 18
Spouse Name: James

DEATHS
9745/1899 HAROLD JAMES SAMUEL ELIZABETH LITHGOW
9613/1907 HAROLD ELIZA ROBERT ELIZABETH LITHGOW

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

Can't see them in 1871, probably the family in 1861 as Esther born in Sept qtr Stockton district.

1861
House number 38
Street Barracks
Parish Linthorpe
City or borough -
County Durham
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough -
Registration district Stockton
Enumeration district 17
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 3689
Folio number 14
Page number 21

James Harrold Head Married Male 34 1827 Mill Furnace Man Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Eliza Harrold Wife Married Female 34 1827 Mill Furnace Mans Wife Prestleigh, Radnorshire, Wales
Sussanah Harrold Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Stonebridge, Worcestershire, England
Agnes Harrold Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Stonebridge, Worcestershire, England
Elizabeth Harrold Daughter - Female 3 1858 Scholar Scotland

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Re: 1913 Electoral Roll - WHITE & WHITEMAN

Thanks Rupert.

Yeah, seems to be only one Samuel Robert.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 29 April 1907 p.6
SILVER WEDDINGS.
BEBB - HAROLD.-April 25, 1882, at St. Simon and
St Jude's, Surry Hills, by the Rev. Luke Parr, Joel,
eldest son of John Bebb, to Esther, youngest daugh
ter of James Harold, both of Sydney. Present ad-
dress, 121 Glebe road, Glebe.


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