Alfred Charles BAYS

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Alfred Charles BAYS b. 10 May 1833 ? c. 23 Jun 1835 St Andrew-The-Great, Cambridge
- parents Charles & Mary

1835 BAYS Alfred C. 1m New Square s. of Charles & Mary Camb. St.And.Gt.

1851
HO107/1760 folio 502
11 Kings Parade, St Edwards, Cambridge
Charles Bays head marr 46 Hatter Cambridge
Mary Bays wife 39 Huntingdon
Alfred Charles Bays son 15 Cambridge
William Bays son 14 Cambridge
Agnes Mary Bays dau 11 Cambridge
Charles Frederick Bays son 9 Cambridge
Edwin Bays son 7 No birthplace shown
John Bonfy Rooper Bays son 4 Cambridge
Henrietta Bays dau 2 Cambridge

Arrived in Australia before 6 Aug 1856.

For some reason Charles Alfred on both marriage reg:

1196/1856 BAYS CHARLES ALFRED - NOBLE HENRIETTA AUGUSTA - BRISBANE MORETON BAY
1859/B033 Bays Charles Alfred - Noble Henrietta Augusta

Daughter's birth reg has Alfred Charles.


Regards,

Dave

[gibbo]

One a NSW index and one a QLD one? Brisbane was in NSW in 1856 when they married then when QLD come into been in 1859 any records that were now in QLD were transferred to QLD hence the 1859 index. I have one the same and my are the exact same years as yours. Same people and the same marriage.


1196/1856 BAYS CHARLES ALFRED - NOBLE HENRIETTA AUGUSTA - BRISBANE MORETON BAY
1859/B033 Bays Charles Alfred - Noble Henrietta Augusta

[DaveHam9]

Yes, you can tell by the format one is NSW and one Qld.

[gibbo]

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933)
Saturday 6 October 1917

FIFTY YEARS AGO AND MORE.

TO THE EDITOR.

Sir -Under nbove captiou Mr George Vowles in his recent contribution com menang on Nut Quad u references to newspaper history btated that Mr Bel
ford had also seen bervice in Ipswich us editor of tho North Australian 1 believe a Catholic newspaper in -last street near the orifoinnl Masonic Hall Since then Mr Thos Mathewson has carried on a stage further on the same subject by stating that he thought Mr Vowles s statement was a mistake ab the North Australian was unsectarlan remarking that the Messrs Hays who owned the paper were nil Protestants mentlonlog 1.58 as being the time be knew them b irst of all the Messrs D J and A C Bays (twin brothers from Cambridge or thereabouts in England) established the North Australian in East street Ipswich on October 2 1855 this having been the first journal published in Modern Uhcn& Those brothers were assisted by MeBsrs F B Bays (of Surat) William G Bavs and Alfred Charles Bays The last named a cousin married a Miss Noble a sister of Mrs Henry Kilner, whoso husbaud was one of the early chemists and druggists of Ipswich The t« In brothers Bays kept possession of tho North Australian until October ot 1SG1 In which year they dispobed of the paper to as was said at the time the late Bishop O Quinn and the following imprint wus attached to the Journal -
Jpbwich Queensland -Edited printed ond published by Richard Belford of Ipswich for the proprietor at tho North Australian ofilce East street it hiving been printed on the original premises established by the Bays Sub sequcntlv the fathers of the Ipswich Press -the Messrs n J and A C Bays-returned to England in January, 11*2 Every one of the Bavs family mentioned above have since died

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks, gibbo, seen that one. We've looked at the cousins in other topics. May even have wondered when they arrived. Just noticed going through my tree that I still had no arrival and had not posted to this board.

Interesting:

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) - Saturday 6 October 1917 p.13

...Messrs E. J. and A. C. Bays returned to England in January, 1862...

That is probably his cousin Arthur Charles. Edmond John and Arthur Charles are twins.

[gibbo]

The newspaper article said

William G Bavs and Alfred Charles Bays

Are they brothers?

I found what i think might be the arrival of the William G Bays

Index to the Unassisted Arrivals NSW 1842-1855

BAYS W G Mr
ship Nestor
date 22 May 1852
Origin Port London, Madeira, Cape of Good Hope

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

No it's William Goulding who is a brother of Arthur Charles. Albert Charles is the odd one out and the only one actually in my tree - cousin to all the others.


Re newspaper "North Australian" in Ipswich - Twins E J & A C BAYS and F B & William G BAYS.

[Twins Edmund John & Arthur Charles. Frank Buckle & William Goulding. Cousin Alfred Charles]

[DaveHam9]

All except the one we want:

Unassisted to Victoria.
Twins Arthur Charles & Edmund John plus Frank Buckle.

BAYS ARTHUR CHAS 23 APR 1855 GIPSY QUEEN B 092 003
BAYS EDMUND JNO 23 APR 1855 GIPSY QUEEN B 092 003
BAYS FRANK B 25 APR 1855 GIPSY QUEEN B 092 003