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Old 12th March 2018, 23:00   #21
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The Goulburn Herald and Chronicle (NSW : 1864 - 1881) Wed 7 Apr 1875 Page 2
MONDAY, APRIL 5.
Before Messrs. Antill, Sheppard, and Conolly.
Robert Hertel, on remand, charged with stealing
two steers, the property of John Howard, was again
brought up.
Mr. Gannon for defence. ...


The Riverine Grazier (Hay, NSW : 1873 - 1954) Sat 12 Jul 1879 Page 2
HILLSTON.
A second inquiry was held to-day respect-
ing the death of a man on North Merrowie,
named John Adam Hertel, who also appears
to have been carried off by natural causes.


The Riverine Grazier (Hay, NSW : 1873 - 1954) Wed 30 Mar 1881 Page 2
Third meetings of creditors in the estates
of William Churche, Hay, and Robert Hertel
Hillston ; will be held in Sydney on 20th April.


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15831515

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Re: Adam/Ferdinand HERTEL &

Have you got Adam's death?

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Re: Adam/Ferdinand HERTEL &

Yes. Adam is Ferdinand. Inquest at Orange. Got that.

Can't find a death for Robert senior or mother Christiana.

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Re: Adam/Ferdinand HERTEL &

No Hertel on Assisted to NSW.

1870 marriage is the first I have in my tree but need to search Trove before that.

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No Hertel on Assisted to NSW.

1870 marriage is the first I have in my tree but need to search Trove before that.
Yeah, not seeing much else, most material refers to Germany before that

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Re: Adam/Ferdinand HERTEL &

1870 a Hertel selling some sheep.

The earliest birth

Birth 6877/1870 HERTEL MARY ANN - ADAM F SUSANNAH - BERRIMA

Captain Hertel of the China clipper 'Minnie' hits before 1870.

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Marriage 1631/1865 GODZSCH CHRISTIAN F - HERTEL CHRISTIANA - BERRIMA

Death 6063/1879 HERTEL JOHN A AGE 68 YEARS DIED HILLSTON HILLSTON * 30 Jun 1879

That can't be John's wife so must be a daughter.

Death GODZSCH CHRISTIANA 2959/1869 JOHN A JOHANNA - BERRIMA

The right father but a different mother.

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John Adam Hertel & Christiana Frederica (Trumpel) ?
Godzsch no hits in Trove.

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One of the trees has this..

"Christiana Carolina Friederica Trampeli
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BIRTH 29 OCT 1787 Adorf, Stollberg, Sachsen, Germany
DEATH 2 MAR 1862 Adorf, Stollberg, Sachsen, Germany"

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Re: Adam/Ferdinand HERTEL &

Thanks Geoff.

Then perhaps John Adam remarried to a Johanna.

Possible that Christiana Frederica had another middle name Johanna but no death in index for any of those three names.


Death HERTEL HERMAN 13877/1908 JOHN A CHRISTIANA - HILLSTON

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Interesting Christiana [dau] was in NSW by 1865..

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