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Old 22nd July 2018, 20:13   #21
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Re: Can an expert help me uncover this mystery?

A interesting thread to follow.

Maybe Louisa and William snr had a affair with the result that William jnr was born and Emily took him on as her own, hence the baptism record naming her as mother.

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A interesting thread to follow.

Maybe Louisa and William snr had a affair with the result that William jnr was born and Emily took him on as her own, hence the baptism record naming her as mother.
If Emily is actually the birth mother and my research is correct. Emily Eveline manley as we know as Louisa had married previous and had 6 kids to a man named William Allen Douglas. She was living in fullham at the time.

William Henry senior also was married to a Louisa Mary Scarborough and had 4 kids together, I have 1801 census for both pairs living together however in 1911 I have William senior and Emily Eveline living together, which makes sense as junior is born in 1911.

I cannot confirm anything. Kinda frustrating lol

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Re: Can an expert help me uncover this mystery?

Sometimes we are looking for more complex answers and very often they are staring us in the face. I'm not saying this is simple, because it has its complexities.

Probably left with these possibles:

I would discount WH Sr's wife Louisa, she would have no reason to put formerly Manley on the birth reg.

Possibly his sister's child, [not suggesting brother is the father], could be anyone.

Probably more likely that Eveline is the mother, just a question of the first name on the reg. That would be would be correct on the bap., if so.

Antony's points in post #19 are very valid, pity that can't be followed up. I can't see those records on Anc.

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Sometimes we are looking for more complex answers and very often they are staring us in the face. I'm not saying this is simple, because it has its complexities.

Probably left with these possibles:

I would discount WH Sr's wife Louisa, she would have no reason to put formerly Manley on the birth reg.

Possibly his sister's child, [not suggesting brother is the father], could be anyone.

Probably more likely that Eveline is the mother, just a question of the first name on the reg. That would be would be correct on the bap., if so.

Antony's points in post #19 are very valid, pity that can't be followed up. I can't see those records on Anc.

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Hi Geoff, as I've pointed out, I'm not sure what to do now. I've no documents to prove the mother being Emily Eveline other than a baptism. Senior lived with Emily Eveline though so it makes sense.

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Yeah, nothing worse than a niggling doubt.. But that does look very close now.

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Hi Geoff, as I've pointed out, I'm not sure what to do now. I've no documents to prove the mother being Emily Eveline other than a baptism.
Unless you can get meaningful details of Emily's address [I suspect Antony was pointing to that] at the birth and confirm it was Emily that was pregnant, then it may be down to luck that something turns up.

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Unless you can get meaningful details of Emily's address [I suspect Antony was pointing to that] at the birth and confirm it was Emily that was pregnant, then it may be down to luck that something turns up.

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I'm sorry, not sure what you mean. I do have Emily Eveline's address from 1911 census up until 1939 where she disappeared, possibly a death, which I can confirm from the certificate of I have the right one. They lived in the same address from 1911 to 1939

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I mean her address where she was staying when she gave birth, that's what I meant by meaningful details of her address, to show her condition. For example if she was in the workhouse infirmary, the records should show the reason for her admission. I wasn't questioning her other addresses, I've seen the censuses and the E/R's.

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