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Old 28th January 2014, 02:40   #1
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George & Marian WALTERS

Marriages Sep Qtr 1876
WALTERS George Thomas Ecclesall B 9c 368
RADCLIFFE Marian Ecclesall B 9c 368


http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A120420b.htm
... On 8 August 1876 at Upperthorpe Chapel, Yorkshire, he married Marian Radcliffe (d.1886). In 1884 Walters was appointed by the British and Foreign Unitarian Association of London to the Melbourne Unitarian Christian Church at Eastern Hill. ...He continued his ministry until 16 November 1926 when he was knocked down by a car and killed at Mosman. Survived by the son and daughter of his first marriage, he was cremated.

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Son born in England or Victoria?

Birth in Victoria:
Surname: WALTERS
Given Names: Lil Dorothy Yelverton
Event: B
Father: George Thomas
Mother: Marian RADCLIFFE
Birth Place: FITZ
Death Place:
Year: 1884
Reg Number: 24408

I can't see them in 1881 census.

Looking for a death for Marian in Victoria and for the 2nd marraige.

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

Hi Dave

A possibility for Marion's death...

Marion Walters
Death Place: Carlton, Victoria
Age: 46
Father: Andrews Alexr
Mother: Hebe Cuppendale
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4692
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840

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Edit: Father's name ?

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

Thanks Geoff.

Parents don't seem to fit.

Perhaps a search for a Marion/Marian Radcliffe in Yorkshire might help.

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

The same quarter as the marriage:

Births Sep Qtr 1876
WALTERS William Ecclesall B. 9c 362

or this one for a possible son born in England:

Births Sep Qtr 1878
WALTERS George Capper M Ecclesall B. 9c 288

Deaths Sep Qtr 1878
Walters George Capper M 0 Ecclesall B 9c 174

It's looking as if they arrived in Victoria before 1881 census and that a son was born in Victoria before 1884.

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

A possibility...

George Walters
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Age: 1
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1879
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Lusitania
Nationality: English

From the passenger list, you may be able to get more

Walters Mr Passenger
Walters Mrs Passenger
Walters Child 1 Passenger
Walters Child 2 Passenger
Walters Infant Passenger

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

Different family:

WALTERS CATHERINE 29 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS GEORGE I JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS MARY 10 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS ROBINSON 29 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS ROBINSON 3 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004


I can't see them assisted to NSW or unassisted to Victoria.

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Different family:

WALTERS CATHERINE 29 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS GEORGE I JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS MARY 10 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS ROBINSON 29 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004
WALTERS ROBINSON 3 JUL 1879 LUSITANIA B 370 004


I can't see them assisted to NSW or unassisted to Victoria.
Ah well, I'll keep looking

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

That birth for Lil is the only Walters showing on Victorian BMD site 1878 - 1888. So the son must have been born in England. I'm wondering if it's the reg for William that I posted.

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That birth for Lil is the only Walters showing on Victorian BMD site 1878 - 1888. So the son must have been born in England. I'm wondering if it's the reg for William that I posted.
Oh! That's worth following up

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Re: George & Marian WALTERS

Oh dear. Selective editing!

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After studying at the Unitarian College, Manchester, he was appointed to Burnley, Lancashire (1876-78 ), and Aberdeen, Scotland (1878-84). On 8 August 1876 at Upperthorpe Chapel, Yorkshire, he married Marian Radcliffe (d.1886).
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In 1884 Walters was appointed by the British and Foreign Unitarian Association of London to the Melbourne Unitarian Christian Church at Eastern Hill. ... He contributed to Melbourne's intellectual life through the Shakespeare and Shelley societies, and through his journal, Modern Thought, begun in 1885.
Eastern Hill is in Victoria and spouse Marian probably died in Victoria in 1886, but perhaps as Marion or even Mary A or Maryann.


The son may have been born in Scotland.

The arrival year has to be 1884.

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