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Old 19th April 2014, 09:42   #11
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Re: LEE family

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Post #2 you at first doubted it was the right family because there was no son Joseph.

The 1863 marriage and the witnesses show it to be the right family.

Where is Joseph J. born abt 1838 in 1851 and 1861 and 1871?
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Re: LEE family

Name: Joseph J Lee
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Marylebone
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-District: Gray's Inn Lane
Parish: St Pancras
County: London, Middlesex
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Joseph J Lee M 32 Marylebone
Wife Jane Lee F 32 Marylebone
Son Joseph Lee M 6 Ireland
Daughter Maria Lee F 4 Ireland
Daughter Mary Lee F 2 St Pancras
Daughter Maria Lee F 0 St Pancras

That should be J J A = Joseph James Albert

Census ref thanks Geoff.

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Re: LEE family

Births Sep Qtr 1838
LEE Joseph James Marylebone 1 123


I can't see them in 1881 so perhaps 1871-1881 for shipping record to Australia. Or any time before 1901.

Age at death for J J A gives dob 1864 so that fits.

Marriage 5933/1901 LEE JOSEPH J A - HOFFMANN PRISCILLA M - SYDNEY

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Re: LEE family

Possible for 1861

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County: Middlesex
RD: Marylebone
Sub-RD: Rectory
ED: 14; Piece: 76; Folio: 84; Page: 30
Household schedule number: 159

Charles Bevill 53
Margaret C Bevill 50
Margaret C Bevill 21
Robert Chilton 23
Elizabeth S Covill 25
Mary A Franklin 27
Caroline G Higgins 40
Ann Sturgess 43 [Occ. Cook]
Joseph Lee 23 [b. Marylebone. Servant]


Maybe significant as they appear to be annexed in schedule 160

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Name: Joseph J Lee
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Marylebone
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-District: Gray's Inn Lane
Parish: St Pancras
County: London, Middlesex
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Joseph J Lee M 32 Marylebone
Wife Jane Lee F 32 Marylebone
Son Joseph Lee M 6 Ireland
Daughter Maria Lee F 4 Ireland
Daughter Mary Lee F 2 St Pancras
Daughter Maria Lee F 0 St Pancras

That should be J J A = Joseph James Albert

Census ref thanks Geoff.
Piece: 216; Folio: 100; Page: 45

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Re: LEE family

Thanks Geoff.

He is a cook in the marriage record.


I can't find any of them assisted to Qld. or NSW.

Unassisted to Vic.:

LEE JOSEPH 21 - DEC 1886 WESTGATE B 476 002
LEE KATE 21 - DEC 1886 WESTGATE B 476 002


LEE DOROTHY 2 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005
LEE JOSEPH 29 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005
LEE KATE MRS 28 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005


Two things we don't know. Did J J A (b. abt 1864 Ireland) arrive without family and unmarried? Was the 1901 marriage his first?

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Thanks Geoff.

He is a cook in the marriage record.


I can't find any of them assisted to Qld. or NSW.
Yeah, that's why thought it was him in 1861.

Clouding the issue is a Joseph Lee, ships cook travelling back and forth to NSW, a bit of long shot, but his family may have travelled on one of those trips, but I can't see them in the manifests

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Thanks Geoff.

He is a cook in the marriage record.


I can't find any of them assisted to Qld. or NSW.

Unassisted to Vic.:

LEE JOSEPH 21 - DEC 1886 WESTGATE B 476 002
LEE KATE 21 - DEC 1886 WESTGATE B 476 002


LEE DOROTHY 2 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005
LEE JOSEPH 29 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005
LEE KATE MRS 28 - JUN 1894 CUZCO B 585 005


Two things we don't know. Did J J A (b. abt 1864 Ireland) arrive without family and unmarried? Was the 1901 marriage his first?
Yeah, still one or two unknowns, can't see a tree for any guidance, have you found one yet?

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We need a tree we can rely on.

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