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Old 11th December 2016, 15:30   #11
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Re: OLLIFFE family

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OLLIFFE Joseph B 200 Bourke Street, Surry Hills, Parish Alexandria, County Cumberland, District Sydney [X950] 45 2223
John not listed.
So J B arrived 1835 - 1841.
Noticed this on Anc.

NZ Births:
Henry Oliffe
Birth Date: 1849
Registration Place: New Zealand
Folio Number: 199

There is this in the NZ BMD:
1849/1729
Oliffe Henry
Parents = Ellen & John

If same John and Ellen, probably still in NZ until at least 1849. Can't see an arrival yet.

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Re: OLLIFFE family

There are some trees, vary in info in the early years, none appear to have pinned down an arrival

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Re: OLLIFFE family

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

ESMP = Botany Cemetery

Ellen Pasfield 12/10/1906 Burial AA2 - Anglican FM A2, Position 32

Thomas, son of John & Ellen buried St. Judes CofE and his sister Ellen also buried CofE.

But John buried RC Waverley. Three different cemeteries.

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Re: OLLIFFE family

One ref to a John Oliffe in NZ papers - 1847.

There are more hits but the name is actually Cliffe in those articles.


I can't find any Oliffe/Olliffe deaths 1840 - 1940 in NZ index so did Henry die in Australia?

Most arrivals from NZ landed in Victoria.

Death OLLIFFE HENRY 8772/1912 JOHN ELLEN SYDNEY

OLLIFFE Henry (Harry) Death notice 02AUG1912 Death late of Pyrmont Sydney Morning Herald 03AUG1912

Married to a Sarah. Clarence and Richmond River papers please copy. Northern NSW.

Buried CofE Waverley. I hope the cemetery record has his age.

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Re: OLLIFFE family

Found this:

OLLIFFE JOSEPH B 2070/1878 AGE 74 YEARS DIED SYDNEY – SYDNEY = b about 1804

SMH – Wed 20 Nov 1878
OLLIFFE.—November 19, after a protracted illness, which he bore with Christian fortitude, at his residence, Francis-street, Sydney, Mr. Joseph Benjamin Olliffe, senr., aged 74 years.

SMH Thu 21 Nov 1878
THE FRIENDS of the Into Mr. J. B. OLLIFFE, Sen., are respectfully informed his Funeral takes place THIS DAY at 2.50 p.m.. from his late residence, No. 6, Francis-street, to St. Jude's Church, Randwick.


Death of his son.. also Joseph Benjamin Olliffe = b 1835 Cork
OLLIFFE JOSEPH B 12193/1930 JOSEPH B – ANN – RANDWICK

SMH Mon 8 Sept 1930
MR. J. B. OLLIFFE.
Mr. Joseph Benjamin Ollliffe, who was connected with Tattersall's Club for many years, and who was a member of the Legislative Assembly for a period, died at his residence, Wallangra, Rae-street, Randwick, on Saturday, at the age of 95 years. Bom in Cork, Ireland, Mr. Olliffe came to Australia with his parents at the age of six months. In his early business career he worked in a general store in Maitland, and then came to Sydney. Mr. Olliffe was one of the founders of Tattersall's Club. After being a member for four years he was chairman for 11 years, and then became secretary. He resigned in 1920 after 25 years' service. A staunch Freetrader, Mr. Olliffe successfully contested the South Sydney seat in the Legislative Assembly in 1882, and remained until the dissolution in 1887, when he did not seek re-election. Mrs. Olliffe died 15 years ago. There are five sons and three daughters. A Requiem Mass will be held at the Church of Our Lady of the Sacred Heart at 9 o'clock this morning, and the funeral will move to the Waverley Cemetery at a quarter to 10 o'clock.

Joseph Benjamin son of Joseph & Ann b 1835 Cork – 1930 married Elizabeth Catherine Callaghan 1861 Maitland (she died 1915) had son Joseph B b 1862 – died 1939 Randwick buried Waverley Catholic Cemetery 3 Jan 1939 - she and Joseph had 12 children.

Elizabeth died 22nd March 1915 “Wallangra” Rae st Randwick age 74 – Evening News Thu 25 March 1915 – buried Waverley Catholic section 17 vaults row 13 – wife of Joseph B Olliffe on Headstone - parents John & Elizabeth C – – born 1839 Maitland - reg no: 1108

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Re: OLLIFFE family

I haven't figured this out yet, but...

Tasmania, Australia, Passenger Arrivals, 1829-1957
Johbn Oliffe [sic]
Arrival Port: Hobart
Date: 5 Jan 1837
Departure Port: London
Departure Date: 29 Aug 1836
Ship: Fairlie

The image is poor.. The TAS site has this..

Oliffe, John
Record Type: Departures
Departure date: 4 Feb 1837
Departure port: Hobart
Ship: Fairlie
Bound to: Sydney
Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:591623
Resource MB2/43/1

Also has: Ann, Mary, Frances, Ellen & Joseph same date/ship.

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Re: OLLIFFE family

This record has a slightly more legible image..

Tasmania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1834-1837, 1841-1887
J Oliffe
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1837
Place: Tasmania, Australia
Ship: Tairlie [sic]
[Image says; Steerage, wife and 3 children]

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Re: OLLIFFE family

have you seen this Dave ?

http://www.kensmith.id.au/olliffe.htm

been thinking re arrival in 1830's.. wasn't Joseph sen a engineer and worked for steamship co ? - wonder if he obtain passage out for his family by working for Steamship.. so would be crew records..
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wonder if this could be them heading to NZ..
Sydney Herald Mon 23 Sept 1839
For New Zealand, same day, the schooner – “Currency Lass”, Captain Bennett, with sundries. Passengers-Mr. Joabut, Mr. Bloachard, Mr. Sutton, Mr. Jones, Mr. Roy, Mr. Crobar, Mr. Scott, Mr. Still, Mr. King, Mr. Milne, Mr. J.Jones, Mr. O'Liffe, wife and two children.

hmm...NSW Gov Gaz Wed 10 July 1839 has List of Runaways apprehended during last week and has Joseph B Oliffe, Sydney on it….

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have you seen this Dave ?

http://www.kensmith.id.au/olliffe.htm
I wonder if that squashes the VDL theory then, I can't see a Frances

There were only 3 children on the outward trip from VLD, so one must have d. there...

Nice find though, Val..

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Re: OLLIFFE family

Thanks Val.

Thanks Geoff.

A summary.

J B & Ann - JB junior b. Cork abt 1835 - arrived age 6 mo.

Daughter Kate by age at death born abt 1840 so not b. Ireland ?

J B sen on 1841 NSW census.

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John & Ellen

Dau Ellen b. abt 1833 Ireland. Other children b. Ireland.

Son Thomas b. abt 1840 where?

Spent some time in NZ and Henry b. 1849.

Earliest ref in NSW for family is 1855.

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