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Old 4th September 2012, 18:10   #11
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Re: Gold Ring with unknown Coat of Arms?

I had a look in my Dictionary of Heraldry but the only Boar that it mentions is the single Boar connected with Richard III.

What a puzzler!

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JOHN PONDE or POUND

Ponde
Hampnes, temp. Hen. VII.
Somerset, p.s. 16, pat. 30 Jan. 1511.
Second s. of Sir John Pound, of Drayton, Hampshire, by Elizabeth, dau.and coheiress of Sir Richard Holt, of Colrith, Hampshire, said to have beenHampnes and Rouge Croix temp. Hen. VII; latter is impossible; may perhapshave been the Hampnes who attended funeral of Henry VII and coronationof Henry VIII and was sent June 1510 to the King of France, though patentof Somerset does not so name him; 1513 employed to buy 'hacbusshes' andsent to King of Denmark; 1517 conducted a French envoy to Berwick; 1520at Field of Cloth of Gold; 18 June 1525 transferred to household of HenryFitzroy, Duke of Richmond and Somerset; thereafter ranked as extraordinary in College; d. between 1 November 1527 and 1 May 1528.
Sometimes said to have married a dau. of William Wriothesley, York,the 'sister Pounde' of the first Earl of Southampton's will, but identificationdoubtful.
Arms: Argent, a fess gules between 2 boar's heads sable in chief & a crossformy fitchy gules in base.
From: 'Somerset Herald', Survey of London Monograph 16: College of Arms, Queen Victoria Street (1963), pp. 152-166. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rep...PONDE or POUND

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Thank you both for your help.

Duckweed that is amazing! and that makes perfect sense as a relation in the family was a General Pond(e). I will try and find out more

A true genius, thank you again.

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Re: Gold Ring with unknown Coat of Arms?

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/rep...x?compid=41947

This might give you some background. They must have changed the coat of arms at some point because the one given there is almost the same but has dragons heads. Possibly different branches of the same family?

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Bertha Beatrice Pond was my partners Great Grandmother. I did also notice an inscription dedicated to Henry VII I think?

Some very informative notes.

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Re: Gold Ring with unknown Coat of Arms?

To Duckweed

That is incredible, I know who to ask should I ever be lucky enough to find a coat of arms in my family :-) Doubt it though, as they were all either in the woollen trade or in the south Wales valleys, still you never know!

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Re: Gold Ring with unknown Coat of Arms?

You never know. Some very wealthy people involved in the wool trade. Also quite a few families were wealthy in earlier times but not now and of course you might be a minor branch of a more important family.

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Inscription to Henry VIII (latin?):

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.co...1&d=1346845348

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You never know. Some very wealthy people involved in the wool trade. Also quite a few families were wealthy in earlier times but not now and of course you might be a minor branch of a more important family.
You never know - however I think that the majority of them were workers and not owners (not that I am saying that the owners didn't work).

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Re: Gold Ring with unknown Coat of Arms?

Had a quick look for the date letter and it appears to be 1920 although the page I found was for silver, I thik it should still hold for gold.

http://www.silvercollection.it/engli...lmarksCHE.html

Couldnt find a makers mark listed for the maker though.
The marks seem to be in very good condition for its age!!
The Chester assay office closed in 1961.

peter
Just done a cut and paste of images and now think its 1745 date letter.

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