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horse 5th October 2014 16:50

John Haylock abt 1835
 
Hi

Looking for John's birth/bap.

Parents not known. He is with wife Ann and dau. Mary Ann in 1861, living next door to in-laws [James and Mary Rankin]. 1861 and subsequent censuses all say b. Soham, Cambridgeshire. 1881 has him b. 1833 :rolleyes:

A little more info HERE

Many thanks
Geoff

emeltee 5th October 2014 17:37

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Hi,

There is a John Haylock, parents William and Mary Ann, baptised 18/5/1833 in Ely. Soham is about five miles away from Ely so he could have lived in Soham but been baptised in Ely.

Emeltee

Ladybird1300 5th October 2014 17:39

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Hi Geoff,

He could have been born Soham and there is a baptism, but at Ely in 1833 could this be him??

First Name JOHN
Last Name HAYLOCK
Year Of Birth 1833
Baptism year 1833
Baptism date 18 May 1833
Abode otp
Place ELY, HOLY TRINITY
Mother's Given Name Mary Ann
Father's First Name William
Father occupation bricklayer
Notes -
County Cambridgeshire
Record set Cambridgeshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Do you know his death?? cos there was one born 1831 and died Soham 1905

Amanda

Ladybird1300 5th October 2014 17:42

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
This is the other one:

First name(s) John
Last name Haylock
Birth year 1831
Death year 1905
Age 74
Burial year 1905
Burial date 10 May 1905
Parish Soham, Burial Book
County Cambridgeshire
Grave details E307/1843/663
Record set Cambridgeshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Amanda

emeltee 5th October 2014 18:56

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
The 1905 death could well be the John born 1833. The info given to the registrar is only as good as the knowledge of the person who gave it and may not be exact.

Emeltee

horse 5th October 2014 20:42

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emeltee (Post 173605)
Hi,

There is a John Haylock, parents William and Mary Ann, baptised 18/5/1833 in Ely. Soham is about five miles away from Ely so he could have lived in Soham but been baptised in Ely.

Emeltee

Thanks Em'

Yeah, this one is a bit of a poser, especially mother being a 'Mary Ann' :rolleyes: However, I think this is the one who is a bricklayer/builder and ended up in Middlesex... [2nd thoughts after Amanda's find]. My John stayed in the Newmarket RD and was an Ag lab.

Thanks Amanda

I think that is the one who ended up in Middlesex as a Builder, he married an Elizabeth and is still around in 1911.

Though, if he proves to be the bricklayer I found in 1851, that means there are 3x John Haylocks' b. abt the same time.

Em's point "The info given to the registrar is only as good as the knowledge of the person who gave it and may not be exact". Is very relevant, especially in this case, John's marriage and the reg. of their 2 dau's have yet to be found/confirmed :rolleyes:

I wasn't aware of one b. in 1831 or that was his death, thanks for that.

I don't have my John's death at present.

Geoff

horse 6th October 2014 00:13

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Since there are no obvious births in Soham there are 3 possibles in the 1841 and 1851 censuses, the one b. Balsham had moved out of the area by 1851, leaving 2, one was a bricklayer in 1851, b. 1834 Ely [already discussed] and in 1851 one b. 1833, an Ag lab.

At the moment I am leaning towards the 1833 b. Ely, since there's nothing else that fits'.

Census ref. 1851 HO107; Piece: 1765; Folio: 266; Page: 31.

1841 ref: HO107; Piece: 88; Book: 5; Folio: 6; Page: 6 [He's with mother Elizabeth and sister Mary]

A baptism would be good :)

Geoff

Edit: Those DoB's are taken from the census and don't necessarily reflect those DoB's found in posts 2 & 3.

horse 6th October 2014 01:45

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
This is them in 1881, Harriet is on my main line..

Civil Parish: Soham
County: Cambridgeshire
Street address: Broad Piece
RD: Newmarket
Sub-RD: Soham
ED: 8; RG11; Piece: 1681; Folio: 53; Page: 3

John Haylock 48 [b. Soham. Farmer of 33 acres]
Ann Haylock 41 [do]
Harriet Haylock 16 [do]
Lizzie Haylock 9 [do]

Geoff

Ladybird1300 6th October 2014 08:13

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Just to recap, the one in Balsham was John Julius father gent, so as you have discounted this and the others the only one left and looks like it fits is:

First Name JOHN
Last Name HAYLOCK
Year Of Birth 1835
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 24 May 1835
Abode -
Place ELY, ST MARY
Mother's Given Name Elizabeth
Father's First Name Robert
Father occupation lab
Notes -
County Cambridgeshire
Record set Cambridgeshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Doesn't give the age so he may have been a toddler when he was baptised, hope this helps.

Amanda

horse 6th October 2014 15:05

Re: John Haylock abt 1835
 
Thanks Amanda

So we need a marriage for a Robert Haylock and an Elizabeth by 1833/35 and a death for Robert before 1841. I'll have a look at that later.

Geoff


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