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Boomer90 9th April 2015 00:57

Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
New to this site. Researching John & Sarah Newington Giles NEWBERY. Read online it was an interesting romantic tale how he acquired wealth as told to his son Frederick William.
Can anyone elaborate?

horse 9th April 2015 02:25

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Hi

Welcome to the site.

Good luck with your research.

Geoff

Ladybird1300 9th April 2015 06:09

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Hello

Welcome to the site, hope you find what you are looking for

Amanda

Ladybird1300 9th April 2015 06:20

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Looks like our Dave has been researching this family:

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.co...ad.php?t=13553


Amanda

DaveHam9 9th April 2015 07:08

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Hello and welcome to the Forum.


I have been Amanda, but there are many gaps and some brick walls. Not all the strories handed down have proved to be true. I don't know how the family acquired their wealth. They certainly had a lot of land and buildings. There are others in Australia also researching the family.

Frederick William is a grandson.

Dave

DaveHam9 9th April 2015 07:11

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Here is a bit of info

Quote:

Description Will of John Newbery, late Maltster and Corn and Coal Merchant of Hampton, Middlesex
Date 22 November 1832
Catalogue reference PROB 11/1808

John Newbery left the land and premises on the western end of the property on the north of the Green to his wife, Sarah. After her death, it was to be passed on to his two unmarried daughters, Mary and Barbara. The property on the east side, a “newly erected tenement…with the yard, garden, coach house, stables, outbuildings and offices”, he left to his daughter, Sarah Bachelor Swalling, and granddaughter, Mary Anne Kensett Slade.

Three other properties were given to his remaining three children. He left a Tenement and Malthouse across the river, at Kingston upon Thames in the county of Surrey, to his oldest son, Thomas Newington Newbery (the ancestor of Elizabeth).

John Newbery had built five cottages on land in the Hampton parish known as “Four Hills”; he left this land, with its “cottages, outbuildings, offices and yard gardens” to his son, James Newbery.
He left another Malthouse, outbuilding and yards “in the hamlet of Hampton Court” to his daughter, Deborah.

The will of John Newbery (signed on 12 October 1832) establishes that he was an exceptionally wealthy man for his time. How he came by this fortune is the subject of a romantic and interesting tale that was passed down to Elizabeth’s great great grandfather, Frederick William Newbery, presumably by his father, Thomas Newington Newbery, eldest son of John Newbery.

The tale is told in the following letter, written by Frederick William Newbery on 26 May 1887. The letter was subsequently transcribed by Frederick’s great grandson, Eric William Newbery, in 1980.

Boomer90 9th April 2015 12:27

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
good morning...Thank you all so much but can I ask is there actual record of this letter written by Frederick William NEWBERY 26 May 1887?
I do so appreciate this.
and I do also want to ask descendants of John & Sarah NEWBERY the son James had a son James John NEWBERY who married Florence Feron (Kelly) NEWBERY in 1867 they had 14 children I cannot find one...Aline Winifred NEWBERY born in France died in 1888 in England buried in England...Florence Jane, James Charles, Thomas Brewer, Inez Elizabeth, Grace Emily, Archibald S., Howard, Barbara Clara, Edgar John, Ada, Harold, Constance...any hints?

DaveHam9 10th April 2015 07:13

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
I have not seen a copy of the letter nor do I know where Eric William fits in the tree.

Re James J. son of James, I have not traced him beyond 1861:

1851
HO107 Piece 1604 Folio 233 Page ?
Civil Parish: Hampton
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Kingston
Address:
James Newbery Head Mar 69 Holder of Cottage property Hampton Middlesex
Sarah Newbery Wife Mar 35 Hanworth Middlesex
James Newbery son 7 Hampton Middlesex
Barbara Newbery dau 5 Hampton Middlesex
Sarah Newbery dau 3 Hampton Middlesex

1861
RG9 Piece 458 Folio 36 Page 19
Civil Parish: Hampton
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Kingston
Address: Upper New St, Hampton
Sarah Newbery 41
James J Newbery 17 Clerk in Printing Office
Barbara Newbery 15
Sarah J Newbery 13


My line is Thomas Newington b. 26 Feb 1786.

We will try and trace Aline Winifred.

Dave

horse 10th April 2015 07:38

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
Aline Winifred Newbery
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 7
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
V 3a, P 108

Geoff

Boomer90 11th April 2015 02:59

Re: Newberys 1800's Hampton Court england
 
My husband is from James NEWBERY line ...DaveHam you are from Thomas Newington NEWBERY line the oldest son of John & Sarah Newington (Giles) NEWBERY brother of James? ..I did some searching on Frederick Thomas born in Australia to Frederick William. F.T. NEWBERY came to San Francisco with wife Jane and never left...did maps of Railroads and maps of San Francisco. F.T. NEWBERY would be my husband's grandfather's second cousin. F.T. had no descendants. Lived there and must have experienced the earthquake and great fire in 1906!
I have obit on James John NEWBERY he brought his family to America.
Thank you Horse regarding Aline Winifred I do have in our possession a Memorial card with where she was born in France and where she is buried in England.
Two daughters Florence Jane married Percy Joseph Cooper and Inez Elizabeth married Sidney Hunt Cooper and remained in England. Howard NEWBERY married the sister of Percy and Sidney, Florence Ann Cooper. Howard and Florence stayed in America. So if I can be of help I am willing.....


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