Hammond family.

[p.risboy]

Hi folks.....travel info please.;)

1861 census.

William Francis Hammond 30. b.London.
Rebecca Hammond(nee.Bedford). 28. b. Clerkenwell.
Rebecca Ann Hammond 4. b.Liberty of Rolls.
Frank Hammond 2.----------ditto--------
Kate Hammond 10 Mths-----ditto--------

Augusta Hammond b.1866. Brisbane, Australia.

I am aware of the tree on Ancestry for this family.

So the family travelled sometime between 1861 & 1866.

Thanks.


Steve.:)

[gibbo]

I've narrowed date of arrival down a lot.

Found this death index

QLD death index
1865/B2334
Name Herbert Hammond
Father William Francis Hammond
Mother Rebecca
Notes - ** born London aged 18 months

Death was the 16th May 1865

[gibbo]

Name: Herbert Hammond
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Apr 1864
Baptism/Christening Place: ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1863
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Francis Hammond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02578-3
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 380230, 380231
Reference Number:

[gibbo]

So Herbert was baptised on 29 Apr 1864 in England and died on the 16 May 1865 in QLD.

So looking for a passenger list between April 1864 and May 1865.

[gibbo]

Another birth after the 1861 census and before they got here.

Name: Horace Hammond
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Aug 1862
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS IN THE LIBERTY OF THE ROLLS,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 08 Mar 1862
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Francis Hammond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P02233-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 375023
Reference Number:

[gibbo]

These births after they arrived here

1866/B5490 Augusta Hammond William Francis Rebecca Bedford
1868/B8413 William Hammond William Francis Rebecca Bedford
1870/B11785 Robert Hammond William Francis Rebecca Bedford


I was looking for family notices in the papers that sometimes have info on when they arrived etc but im not finding much on this family at all:rolleyes: Im beginning to think they moved interstate or went back to England:confused:

I cant find their arrival in the QLD assisted passenger lists or in NSW:rolleyes:

[gibbo]

Ok so they ended up in New Zealand :rolleyes: That wont help find their arrival here :2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a death for Horace in England or Qld. or NSW.

There are several possible hits in the Unassisted to NSW index.

[gibbo]

I can't see a death for Horace in England or Qld. or NSW.

There are several possible hits in the Unassisted to NSW index.


They ended up in New Zealand Dave :2fun::2fun:

Im not having any luck finding their arrival in Australia tho:rolleyes:

[DaveHam9]

Well, they may have arrived in Australia via NZ and then returned to NZ.

PROV have redesigned the indexes. Can't see them in or out of Victoria.

[p.risboy]

You must try harder.>:D:2fun::2fun::2fun:

Thanks you two.;):)

[gibbo]

You must try harder.>:D:2fun::2fun::2fun:

Thanks you two.;):)


Hey i narrowed the years down more than you had :p:2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

I even looked assuming the 'd' was silent. :2fun:

[p.risboy]

I even looked assuming the 'd' was silent. :2fun:

I got a bit scared.......I thought the line was HAMILTON at first.eek)eek):2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

Get really scared if it's HAMILTON in early 1800s in Co Down. :2fun:

[p.risboy]

Get really scared if it's HAMILTON in early 1800s in Co Down. :2fun:

I thought I was going to have to contend with Fred.eek):2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

Fred never existed. :2fun:

The death certificate for his 'mother' says 'no issue' :rolleyes:

That cost me $16.


Name: Jessie Jobina BARRACLOUGH
Date of Death: 3 Dec 1917
Place: Potts Street Ryde, Municipality of Ryde, NSW
Occupation:
Sex: female
Age: 59
Conjugal Status:
Place of Birth: North Sydney
Time in Aust Colonies:

Father: John BLUE
Occupation: Seaman
Mother: Katharine BENN (Altered from Katherine)

Place of Marriage: Woollahra, NSW
Age at Marriage: 20
Name of Spouse: Frederick BARRACLOUGH
Children of Marriage: No Issue

Informant: J W PRICE, No Relation, Potts Street Ryde

Cause of Death: Ceberal Haemorrhage
Length of Illness: 6 Months
Medical Attendant: W G C SMITH
Date Last Seen: 3 Dec 1917

Date of Burial: 4 Dec 1917
Place of Burial: The Church of England Cemetery Field of Mars
Minister & Religion: S J KIRKBY, Church of England
Undertaker: Wood Coffill and Coy Ltd
Witnesses: Arnold BULL, Charles J W WOOD

Registered: 3 Dec 1917 - Ryde
Ref No.: 1917/17611

[p.risboy]

PHEW.!!!!. :2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

Yes, it's a relief. :2fun:

[leefer]

http://www.localhistoryonline.org.nz/gsdl/cgi-bin/PUI?a=d&d=nsim-B0149

Found this Gem for you Steveeek)

[gibbo]

Wow well done a good find Lee :)

[leefer]

Wow well done a good find Lee :)

redf)redf)

Still dont know when they sailed though!!

[p.risboy]

http://www.localhistoryonline.org.nz/gsdl/cgi-bin/PUI?a=d&d=nsim-B0149

Found this Gem for you Steveeek)

You're a star Lee. That's brilliant.:2fun::2fun:

Pork pie coming your way.:2fun:

[leefer]

Melton Mowbray only please:D

With a bit of piccalily.

[gibbo]

Found this

http://www.scribd.com/doc/75412616/29/HAMMOND-William-Francis
The below called Frank.. PRANK :2fun::2fun: Typing error no doubt :biggrin:

HAMMOND, William Francis Trained as a surveyor, architect and engineer in England, he came to New Zealand in 1871 and commenced practice at Auckland. Later his sons Prank and Horace joined him in the firm of W. F. Hammond and Sons, practicing at Auckland. He was a foundation member of the New Zealand Institute of Surveyors. Granted licence under Land Transfer Act in January, 1880

And maybe[?] them leaving Sydney for New Zealand :confused:

Australian Town and Country Journal (NSW : 1870 - 1907)
Saturday 1 April 1871

Novelty, barque, 376 tons, Nearing, for Auckland. Passengers-Mr. and Mrs. Hammond and family, Mrs. Kirkwood and 3 children, Mrs. Nearing, Mrs. Skeates, and 4 in the steerage.


Yep i know still havent got them arriving in Australia :2fun::2fun:

[gibbo]

Dont know if you wanted this or if you already have it but im posting it anyway:biggrin:

Cemetery Burial details

Surname: HAMMOND
Forename(s): William Francis
Age: 77 Years
Gender: M
Date of death: 13 December 1907
Date of Burial:
Funeral director: No Director - UNKNOWN
Cemetery: Pompallier Cemetery
4 Glenfield Road, Glenfield, Auckland
Location: Anglican Cemetery Block A Plot 17

[woodlander]

http://www.localhistoryonline.org.nz/gsdl/cgi-bin/PUI?a=d&d=nsim-B0149

Found this Gem for you Steveeek)

Great find Lee - pleased for Steve and now selfishly trawling the site in hope of my own finds :)

[gibbo]

Horace Hammond ..... picture of him on the link as well.

http://www.kaiparalifestyler.co.nz/Of_Interest.cfm?NewsID=3963


None of these articles mentions the families time in Australia:rolleyes: