Spratt Family

[gibbo]

I am looking for this family in 1851, trying to find out if there are 2 sets of twins in this family. Would like to see if their birth years are the same as the 1841 census. I already have James in 1851 and not living with his family and his birth year is the same as the 1841 census.

This is them in 1841.

1841 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Chislett
Hundred: Bleangate
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Herne
Address: Knaves Ash, Chislet

BATES, William M 45 1796 Kent
BATES, William M 15 1826 Kent
SPRAT, John M 40 1801 Kent
SPRAT, Elizabeth F 40 1801 Kent
SPRAT, Mary F 15 1826 Kent *
SPRAT, John M 15 1826 Kent *
SPRAT, William M 10 1831 Kent *
SPRAT, James M 10 1831 Kent *
SPRAT, George M 9 1832 Kent
SPRAT, Charlotte F 2 1839 Kent

Thank you

[davelambert271]

Hi Sandy - did you manage to open the file the other day?

SPRATT, John Head Married M 54 1797 Ag Lab Herne Kent
SPRATT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 52 1799 Lab Wife Hoath Kent
SPRATT, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Lab Daughter Chislett Kent
SPRATT, Charlotte Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Chislett Kent

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1625 Folio: 197 Page: 10

Registration District: Blean
Sub District: Sturry
Enumeration District: 9

Civil Parish: Westbeer
Address: Bushbourne, Westbeer Kent


1851
SPRATT, William Lodger Unmarried M 20 1831 Ag Lab Chislett - living Maypole Herne

dave

[davelambert271]

Hi Gibbo
sorry doesn't look as if you have twins
https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search-advanced#searchType=records&filtered=false&fed=true&collectionId=&advanced=true&givenName=&surname=spratt&birthYear=1830&range-birthYear=10&birthLocation=kent&deathYear=&range-deathYear=1&deathLocation=&residenceYear=&range-residenceYear=1&residenceLocation=&fatherFirst=john&fatherLast=&motherFirst=elizabeth&motherLast=&spouseFirst=&spouseLast=&marriageYear=1820&range-marriageYear=1&marriageLocation=canterbury

Just in case the link doesn't work

from IGI
John Spratt maried Elizabeth Wanstall 17 Oct 1820 Canterbury
children (all christening dates in Hoath except*)
Sarah 3nov1822 * Chislet
Mary 5dec1824 * Chislet
John 4jun1826
William 1jun1828
James 28nov1830
George 14oct1832
Harriett 4jan1835
David 11sep1836
Charlotte Ann 10mar1839

dave

[gibbo]

Hi Dave,
No i havent manage to open the file yet:( my daughter has been busy at work this week with the end of the school year coming up and then she had to go away for a couple of days as well. Hopefully sometime this week she will have some spare time to come and help me with it.

Well it appears from the 1841 and 1851 census that James and William were both born the same year. Could i assume they were twins or maybe one born early in the year and the other toward the end of the year? I wish birth cert. were out before the 1830's:rolleyes:
Thank you.

[davelambert271]

Hi Sandy
I'll have a go sending it in a different format if I can.

Meanwhile check my last post on this thread, you may have missed it
dave

[gibbo]

Hi Dave,
We must have been replying at the same time on the earlier posts:biggrin:
Well that sort of got me sidetracked thinking 2 lots of twins and there wasnt:rolleyes: Glad i got someone to check it out. Thank you for that:)

[gibbo]

Hi Sandy
I'll have a go sending it in a different format if I can.

Meanwhile check my last post on this thread, you may have missed it
dave


Thanks Dave, only if its not to much trouble as you have already helped a great deal with it. Oz and i do appreicate it.

Got the other post, thank you:)

[DaveHam9]

You are lucky gibbo that the beta site has data on the family that the original LDS FamilySearch site does not. That was the one I checked so I was wrong in saying there is no data on the family on-line yet. redf)

I'll have bad dreams all night now. :2fun:

[gibbo]

You are lucky gibbo that the beta site has data on the family that the original LDS FamilySearch site does not. That was the one I checked so I was wrong in saying there is no data on the family on-line yet. redf)

I'll have bad dreams all night now. :2fun:


Its all ok, they were found:biggrin: And no twins:rolleyes: Just as well i didnt take the word of the 1841 census. I only thought about checking it as even tho it could have been possible, but it would have been unusual to have 2 lots of twins in one family.

[DaveHam9]

I did have a bad night. eek)

Oh, never take 1941 census as 100% accurate re ages.

Glad it's sorted. :)

[oznannie]

Good going guys :)
1841 the ages were rounded up and sometimes down!!
I wish they had put relationships, never mind.

ozn

[DaveHam9]

Yes, not all the ages are rounded down as instructed. And of course some are probably inaccurate to begin with depending who gives the info to the enumerator.

We are lucky the 1841 census has as much as it does. I'm certainly happy records exist for Scotland. :)

[gibbo]

Rather than start a new thread for this family and since the info is on this one i have stayed here.
Could someone have a look for this family in 1861 please.

SPRATT, John Head Married M 54 1797 Ag Lab Herne Kent
SPRATT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 52 1799 Lab Wife Hoath Kent
SPRATT, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Lab Daughter Chislett Kent
SPRATT, Charlotte Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Chislett Kent

RG number: HO107 Piece: 1625 Folio: 197 Page: 10

Registration District: Blean
Sub District: Sturry
Enumeration District: 9

Civil Parish: Westbeer
Address: Bushbourne, Westbeer Kent


Thank you.

[crankypants]

Hi Gibbo

1861 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Westbere
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Sturry
Address: Rushbourne, Westbere

SPRATT, John Head Married M 62 1799 Agricultural Labourer Herne Kent
SPRATT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 64 1797 Hoath Kent

cheers
crankypants

[gibbo]

Thank you CP, if its not to much trouble could you please check and see if they are still around in 1871 for me please:) Thank you.

[crankypants]

Hi Gibbo

1871 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Westbere
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Blean
Sub-registration district: Sturry
Address: Island Road Rushbourne Farm, Westbere

SPRATT, John Head M 74 1797 Ag Labourer Herne, Kent
SPRATT, Elizbeth Wife F 72 1799 Hoath, Kent

cheers
crankypants

[gibbo]

Thank you once again CP. Appriecate it:biggrin:

[crankypants]

Hi Gibbo

Deaths Mar 1877
Spratt Elizabeth 77 Blean 2a 465

Deaths Sep 1880
Spratt John 83 Blean 2a 443

cheers
crankypants

[gibbo]

Thanks CP. Just got to find the birth for John and hopefully get his parents names or might have to order the death cert. and see what name is on that for father to narrow them down a bit. Thanks again for your help:)

[DaveHam9]

Working on your tree. ;)

[gibbo]

Working on your tree. ;)


Yes i have Dave, i have been very good today:biggrin: That will only last for a few more minutes tho:rolleyes:

[DaveHam9]

Do you have it all worked out? One look up per week or something? eek)

I can't see the end so I just keep going. :2fun:

[gibbo]

Do you have it all worked out? One look up per week or something? eek)

I can't see the end so I just keep going. :2fun:


Oh it just depends on whats happening as to how much i do:biggrin: Actually you'd be surprised at how much i get done:2fun::2fun:

[DaveHam9]

I'm sure I would be surprised. :2fun: