SARGINSON family in Cumberland

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1881
Dwelling: 36 South St
Census Place: St Cuthbert W/O - Botchergate, Cumberland, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5154 / 140
Page Number 29
Isaac SARGISON Head M Male 59 Salkeld, Cumberland, England Joiner
Jane SARGISON Wife M Female 54 Brampton, Cumberland, England
Isaac SARGISON Son U Male 19 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Clerk
Mary E. SARGISON Daur Female 14 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Dressmaker
Thomas J. SARGISON Son Male 10 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Scholar

Please see if the family can be found in 1891. Thanks.

I think they went to New Zealand in 1893.

Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

1891 census.

Name: Isaac Sarginson
Age: 69
Est birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse name: Jane

Civil parish: St Cuthbert Without
Eccl parish: St Johns
Town: Carlisle
County: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: 36, South Street.

Occupation: Joiner.

Reg dist: Carlisle
Sub-reg dist: St Cuthbert
ED: 6

Isaac Sarginson 69
Jane Sarginson 64
Mary E Sarginson 24
Thomas J Sarginson 20

Can't make out p.o.b, but it is Cumberland.

In 1861/71 census it's Layonby or Lazonby.


Steve.:)

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thank you very much. It is Lazonby.

I don't know yet how this one fits in:

Lazonby churchyard
John Sargison died Nov 7th 1767 aged 75.


Births Sep 1861
SARGISON Isaac Carlisle 10b 396

NZ death
1941/21304 Sarginson Isaac 79Y

Christchurch City Council Cemeteries Database
Result Detail
Surname: Sarginson
First name(s): Isaac
Date of death: Monday, 21 April 1941
Cemetery: Linwood
Date of burial: Tuesday, 29 April 1941
Block number: 30
Plot number: 22
Age: 79 years
Address: Unknown
Occupation: Minister of Religion
Place of birth: Carlyle, England
Years in New Zealand: 48
Comments:


Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

1851 census.

Is this Isaac.??

Name: Isac Sargison
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Longonby, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Farlam
County: Cumberland
Street Address: Bowbank.

Occupation: Joiner

Reg dist: Brampton
Sub-reg dist: Hayton
ED: 4a and 5a

Household schedule number: 64

Isac Sargison 29
Ann Sargison 34. b. Eamont Bridge, Cumberland.
Sarah Sargison 3. b. Farlam, Cumberland.


Steve.:)

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

1871 census.

Name: Isaac Sargison
Age: 9
Est. birth year: abt 1862 (1861.?)
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Botchergate
Eccl parish: St John the Evangelist
County: Cumberland

Address - 1, Raysons Court.

Reg dist: Carlisle
Sub-reg dist: St Cuthbert
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 139

Isaac Sargison 49. b.Lazonby. Occ. Joiner and Methodist ? ? ? Reader.
Jane Sargison 44. b. Irthington.
William Sargison 18. . Born Farlam. Occ. Blacksmith.
Isaac Sargison 9
Mary E Sargison 4
Thomas Sargison 5 months

All other children born Carlisle.

Steve.:)

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thank you very much.

This is the son:

Births Sep 1861
SARGISON Isaac Carlisle 10b 396

1871 is the correct family ---> Methodist local Preacher :D

Spouse Jane is 5 years younger. If the 1851 is correct he has a different spouse who is older. It is a very different address but certainly a possibility and one I've not seen before. The age and the 'joiner' is correct. Now to find the death of Ann and the marriage to Jane.

Regards,

Dave

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Where is the death of spouse Ann?

Daughter Ann is 9 in 1861:

Marriages Mar 1852
Sarginson Isaac Cockermouth 10b 505
Williamson Jane Cockermouth 10b 505

Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

A possible death for Ann.

Name: Ann Sargison
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brampton
County: Cumberland
Volume: 25
Page: 21


Steve.:)

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Yes, thanks. Brampton fits with her place of living in census.

Daughter Ann is 9 in 1861: was born in Farlam so it is fitting together.

I'm wondering why Cockermouth for marriage. Jane was born in Irthington.

Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

1851 census.

Name: Jane Williamson
Age: 20
Est birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Williamson
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Botchergate
Town: Carlisle
County: Cumberland

Street Address:81, Botchergate.

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried.

Reg dist: Carlisle
Sub-reg dist: Wetheral
ED: 8b

Household schedule number: 144

Williamson Williamson 52. Occ.Teacher at Evangelist Church.:rolleyes:
Jane Williamson 50
Jane Williamson 20 . Teachers daughter.
James Williamson 16 . Printer.


Irthington is about 3 miles from Brampton.


Steve.:)

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thanks.

CP says I have way too many clergymen in my tree and she is probably right :2fun: The proportion does seem rather high.

Any sign of them in 1841 - possibly as SARGISON ?

Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

1841 census

I think Isaac Snr. is on his 2nd marriage.:rolleyes:

Name: Isaac Sarginson
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Penrith
Hundred: Leath
County: Cumberland
Street Address: ? ? ? Buildings.

Occupation: Di??? Turner or Tanner

Reg dist: Penrith
Sub-reg distr: Penrith

Isaac Sarginson 55
Jane Sarginson 50 N.B.I.C*
Isaac Sarginson 15
Thomas Sarginson 15
Joseph Sarginson 12


*According to other sources mothers name for Isaac Jnr. is Sarah Bird.:rolleyes:



Steve.:)

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thanks. That's 19 rounded down to 15 for jnr.

I think we shall stop there ;) Too far out on a limb of my tree.

Regards,

Dave

[p.risboy]

Hello Steve,

Yes, thanks. Brampton fits with her place of living in census.

was born in Farlam so it is fitting together.

I'm wondering why Cockermouth for marriage. Jane was born in Irthington.

Regards,

Dave

Cockermouth for a marriage.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: I would hazard a guess her old Daddy didn't approve, and they 'eloped'.
Two religious backgrounds may have played a part.

"Go away, and do it on the quiet".......daddy said.:rolleyes: :2fun:

[DaveHam9]

Something like that perhaps :rolleyes: