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DaveHam9
1st March 2010, 22:29
Hello crankypants,

The line in my tree is through:

7. Rodber Wylde PALMER b. 13 Jul 1823 'Pemberton Grange', Parramatta, NSW

Birth # V18236358 1B/1823 PALMER RODBER W GEORGE T CATHERINE I

1878-79 N.S.W Electoral Roll - Orange
PALMER Rodber, Plougman’s Creek, household

Death # 5675/1887 PALMER RODBER W GEORGE T CATHERINE ALBURY
Died 'Campbell Villa', Tumbarumba, NSW

# V1851592 37B/1851 PALMER RODBER MIDDLETON ISABELLA L

CT= CofE Black Creek, Bulwarra, Cloden, East Maitland, Hinton, Hunter District, Maitland, Morpeth, West Maitland

Birth # V183039 121A/1830 MIDDLETON ISABELLA L GEORGE A SARAH

Death # 15822/1914 PALMER ISABELLA L GEORGE A SARAH ALBURY

They had 8 children.

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
1st March 2010, 23:00
Hi Dave

Transcribed as Rodben Palmen.

1841 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Finchley
County: Middlesex
Address: Bibsworth Manor House
PALMER Rodber, 1826 age 15 Pupil n.b.i.c


New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Mr. Rodber Palmer
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Voyage Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1846
Vessel Name: St Vincent
Native country: N S Wales

Oxford University Alumni, 1500-1886
PALMER Rodber 5s. George Thomas, of Parramatta,
Australia, arm. ST. MARY HALL, matric, 22 June
1843, aged 19.

1828 New South Wales, Australia Census (Australian Copy)
Name: Rodber Wylde Palmer
District: Parramatta
Age:5

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
1st March 2010, 23:30
Hello crankypants,


Thank you very much.

An Oxford Uni Allumni :D :D

First of 8 children:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 9 December 1931
MR. R. H. PALMER.
Mr. Reginald Heber Palmer, of Messrs. Palmer and Son, auctioneers, of Randwick and Botany, died at his residence, Waddon, Botany road, Botany, after a short illness following an accident.
Mr. Palmer, who was aged 79 years, was one of the oldest auctioneers in the State, having held a licence for over half a century. He and his son were municipal valuers.
Born at Olepen, West Maitland, he was the eldest son of the late Rodber Wylde Palmer, B.A., a teacher at The King's School, Parramatta, under the late Rev. Dr. Forrest.
Mr. Palmer was a Freemason for more than 50 years; he was also a member of the Royal Historical Society. Mrs. Palmer, two sons, four daughters, and two step-daughters survive.
The remains were interred at Randwick General Cemetery, the Rev. Canon Cakebread officiating at the graveside.

I have the E/R already thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
2nd March 2010, 00:38
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

John b. 1798, son of John & Susan, married Harriett Venner WYLDE. I don't know where the 'Acland' comes from yet. eek)

Frederick Acland PALMER b. 1875 Dubbo d. 1942 Parramatta

married 1903 Waterloo

Evangeline Alice Elizabeth GRIBBLE b. 1881 Darlington Point d. 1960 Chatswood


1936 N.S.W Electoral Roll – Parramatta – Parramatta
PALMER Frederick Acland, 67 Hawkesbury road, Westmead, clerk
PALMER Evangeline Alice Elizabeth, 67 Hawkesbury road, Westmead, h.d
PALMER Keith Athol Paterson, 67 Hawkesbury road, motor mech.
PALMER Cynthia Patricia Joan, 67 Hawkesbury road, Westmead, h.d
PALMER Kelvyn John Sirius, 67 Hawkesbury road, rubber worker


Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
2nd March 2010, 02:31
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

John & Susan's daughter Sophia (b. 1803) married Edward Charles CLOSE. Yes, named after the spouse of a great aunt. :D

Edward Charles Close PALMER b. 1860 Maitland d. 1932 Five Dock

married 1893 Adelong *** That's one of the connections to my tree ***

Amy Theodosia GRIBBLE b. 1872 Rushworth d. 1933 Burwood


Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
2nd March 2010, 04:29
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. I now know where the 'Acland' comes from. :D So, it's back to the England topic.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
2nd March 2010, 23:04
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Catherine S PALMER b. 1853 d. 1918 Ryde

Sophia S PALMER b. 1858 Maitland d. 1934 Burwood

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 00:45
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

George Augustus PALMER b. 1866 Murrurundi d. 1946 Manly

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
3rd March 2010, 01:39
Hi Dave

1st MARRIAGE
747/1907 PALMER GEORGE A R NICOLL AGNES H ALBURY

DEATH
10950/1934 PALMER AGNES H ROBERT SUSAN ALBURY

2nd MARRIAGE
18992/1934 PALMER GEORGE A R CLAYTON FLORENCE F HOLBROOK

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 01:45
Hello crankypants,

Thank you. I didn't have a marriage for George in my database.


The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 11 September 1934
DEATHS
PALMER. - September 10, 1934, at 85 Croydon- avenue, Croydon, Sophia Sussanah, second daughter of Rodber and Isabella Palmer, aged 76 years.


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Lydia I A PALMER b. 1862 St Leonards d. 1922 Randwick

Amy G C PALMER b. 1869 Coonabarabran d. ?

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 02:10
Hello crankypants,

Birth # 6027/1864 BROUGHTON FLORENCE F JOHN EMILY BINALONG

Married James Edward CLAYTON
7483/1900 CLAYTON JAMES E BROUGHTON FLORENCE F YOUNG

Death # 25283/1947 PALMER FLORENCE FANNY JOHN EMILY MOSMAN

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
3rd March 2010, 02:10
Hi Dave

Amy Gertrude Campbell Weston PALMER

DEATH
1614/1944 PALMER AMY GERTRUDE C W RODBERT ARABELLA LYDIA CHATSWOOD

Sending images.

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 02:14
Hello crankypants,

Why can't one of them have just one given name? eek)

Thanks.

Agnes Hunter NICOLL b. 1862 Avoca, Vic. ?

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 02:26
Hello crankypants,

On 17 September 1801 John PALMER snr's sister Sophia had married Robert CAMPBELL.

CAMPBELL, ROBERT (1769-1846), merchant, pastoralist, politician and philanthropist, was born on 28 April 1769 at Greenock, Scotland, the youngest surviving son of ten children of John Campbell, laird of Ashfield and writer and town clerk of Greenock, and his wife Agnes, née Paterson.

Sophia Susannah named after John's daughter who married:

CLOSE, EDWARD CHARLES (1790-1866), settler and churchman, was born on 12 March 1790 at Rangamati, Bengal, the only child of Edward Close, merchant, and Marrianne, daughter of Michael Collinson. Educated in England, he entered the army in 1808, serving throughout the Peninsular war as a lieutenant in the 48th Regiment. On 3 August 1817 he arrived in New South Wales with a detachment of his regiment in the Matilda and after several years in Sydney was transferred to Newcastle. As acting engineer he was responsible in 1821-22 for putting down mooring chains and removing dangerous shoals from Newcastle Harbour. He built a fort near the signal station and erected an iron beacon in which a large coal fire was lit each night at sunset. This light on Beacon Hill functioned until 1857, when it was replaced by the Nobby's Head light-house.

On 27 September 1821 at St John's, Parramatta, Close married Sophia Susannah, only daughter of John Palmer and his wife Susan.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 03:14
Hello crankypants,

Catherine S PALMER b. 1853 d. 1918 Ryde

Sorry about that. I missed another marriage:

# 2672/1881 TAPP CHARLES PALMER CATHERINE S ALBURY

Death # 3374/1918 TAPP CATHERINE S RODBER W ISABELLA L RYDE

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 03:37
Hello crankypants,

John Eric Pemberton PALMER b. 1899 Albury d. 1978

Death # 8573/1978 PALMER JOHN ERIC PEMBERTON EDWARD AMY


Not John Pemberton PALMER b. abt 1914 mother = Mary Rolla, brother = Leslie in E/R Barton - Hurstville in 1936.

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
3rd March 2010, 03:51
Hi Dave

Can't see Charles TAPP death.:rolleyes: Have you found it.

Agnes Hunter NICOLL was born in Vic 1862 parents Robert & Susan.

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 03:59
Hello,

Thanks. Can't be sure. One child:

20372/1881 TAPP FRANK PALMER CHARLES CATHERINE SARAH MOLONG

Possible:
7540/1921 TAPP CHARLES F FRANK P EDITH R WINDSOR

Molong and Windsor don't really fit. Nor does Catherine's death in Ryde.

Possible birth:

V18552866 56/1855 TAPP CHARLES FRANK MARY A

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 04:20
Hello crankypants,

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 29 January 1918
DEATHS
TAPP. - January 24, 1918 at Ryde, Catherine Sarah, wife of Charles Tapp, formerly of Cudal, at the age of 64 years.


South of Molong, west of Orange.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 04:59
Hello crankypants,

Thanks. Interesting how people die in ACT in 1855 when it was not formed until 1911. eek)

Spend a fascinating time in this graveyard and discover the early history of the Anglican and Methodist community of 18th [ :confused: ]Century Queanbeyan. The old headstone section of the cemetery opened in 1885. The oldest standing monument is that of Pemberton Campbell Palmer who died on 15 August 1885. Pemberton Palmer was the grandson of John Palmer, the purser on Governor Phillip's Flagship of the First Fleet.

John Palmer, who was the brother-in-law of Robert Campbell established a holding near the new settlement that was later called Queanbeyan. He called his holding Jerrabomberra. The area surrounding the Queanbeyan district was called the Limestone Plains and as a free settler and merchant, Robert Campbell set up a farming property called Duntroon.

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
3rd March 2010, 05:31
Hi Dave

The Sydney Morning Herald... Tuesday 27 February 1940, page 6. News 232 words
PALMER V PALMER
Beryl Joyce Palmer (formerly Dalton) v John Eric Palmer, Marriage December 1929 at Newcastle, Presbyterian rites. Issue, desertion by non-compliance with a restitution older. Decree nisi. Mr. D. F. Kelly (instructed by Mr. M. G. Tilbury) for petitioner.

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 06:04
Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

Surname: NICOLL
Given Names: Agnes Hunter
Event: B
Spouse Surname/Father: Robert
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan HUNTER
Age:
Sex:
Birth Place: AVOC
Death Place:
Year: 1862
Reg Number: 10147
Denomination:
Parish:
Fiche:


Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
3rd March 2010, 22:09
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Kenneth Acland Gribble PALMER b. 1904 Leichhardt d. 1976 Sutherland

married 1924 Randwick

Myra Evelyn Alice LLOYD b. 1904 St Leonards d. 1989 Sutherland

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 00:22
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Adrian Bulmer Riley PALMER b. 1906 Petersham d. 1991

married 1929 Marrickville

Norah Elizabeth JARRETT b. 1908 Kent, England d. 1974 Coff's Harbour


The Age - Dec 23 1967
Writers and readers - Stuart Sayers
"Ask a bystander about a landmark and there is the chance he may direct you to enquire of Constable Palmer. He may add that the constable is a descendant of the first settler John Palmer. You may feel sceptical, but Adrian Bulmer Riley Palmer works in the district of his ancestor as a member of the Darlinghurst Police Force."


Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 01:41
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Keith Athol Paterson PALMER b. 1909 Coogee

Married 1939 Parramatta

Alice Daisy NOTLEY

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 02:51
Hello crankypants,

1936 N.S.W Electoral Roll – Parramatta – Parramatta
PALMER Frederick Acland, 67 Hawkesbury road, Westmead, clerk
PALMER Evangeline Alice Elizabeth, 67 Hawkesbury road, Westmead, h.d
PALMER Keith Athol Paterson, 67 Hawkesbury road, motor mech.

This is curious:

Death # 22242/1977 PALMER KEITH ATHOL JOHN ALICE ??

PALMER Keith Athol Death notice 14SEP1977 Death 68 late of Guildford SMH 16SEP1977

He could be the son of this couple:

Marriage # 4048/1882 PALMER JOHN BRYANT BALE ALICE ELIZABETH ULMARRA

But there is no birth before 1910 for a 2nd Keith Athol. ??? I can't see a 2nd Keith Athol (without the Paterson) in the E/R.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 03:02
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Well now. The E/R has Guildford :D So the reg is the right one but both names are wrong.


--------
Cynthia Patricia Joan PALMER b. 1910 Randwick

married 1936 Sydney

Frederick Walter Bland PROWSE b. 1908 Waterloo d. 1969 Glenbrook

Please see what you can find after 1936. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 03:33
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

SURNAME NOTLEY
GIVEN NAME(S) ALICE D
INDEX YEAR 1912
FATHER FRANK
MOTHER MURIEL L
PLACE OF REGISTRATION CAMPBELLTOWN
REGISTRATION YEAR 1912
REGISTRATION NUMBER 40779

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I like the reference to the armed storeship and flagship of First Fleet :D

Kelvyn/Kelvin John Sirius PALMER b. 1915 Coogee

married 1947 Grafton

Jean Wylie HOWAT b. ?

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 04:33
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. That's another branch on my tree done. :D Where to next?

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 04:41
Hello crankypants,

* Tech Support: "Ok, please click on 'Start' and move the mouse up to 'Settings'."
* Customer: "Oh, you're asking too much of me now!" :)

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
4th March 2010, 05:09
Hello crankypants,

* Tech Support: "Ok, please click on 'Start' and move the mouse up to 'Settings'."
* Customer: "Oh, you're asking too much of me now!" :)

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave

So who told you it was me.:D :D

Can't believe I'm going to tell you this.
A while ago I was having problems receiving emails (well so I thought). Rang my internet provider and had him working on it for over an hour. Well eventually he solved it and there were all my emails I had been waiting on.
Told him he was a star and thanked him for being so patient etc.
So once I hung up the phone I realised my boo boo, my missing emails were on page 2. All I had to do was click on the arrow to go to next page.redf) redf)

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 05:32
Hello crankypants,

:) Even experts forget things too.

Thanks for Jean in the E/R. It might help me find her birth.

I'm waiting for a 'sign' on which branch of my tree to work on next.

Regards,

Dave

nainmaddie
4th March 2010, 10:13
Hi Dave

I have been catching up on some of the posts including yours, and noticed an Acland mentioned.

There is a well known family of Aclands of Killerton House near Exeter. If this is of any consequence let me know, as there would be plenty of records available.

Maddie

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 21:14
Hello Maddie,

So far I don't have an Exeter connection but if one turns up I'll remember your offer. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
4th March 2010, 23:57
Hello crankypants,

I'm still waiting for a sign. :D Something starting with "B" perhaps.

Regards,

Dave

The Bearoness
17th March 2013, 14:04
Hello daveham9,
I've noticed these comments here to someone called crankypants? re my Palmer family .My father was Keith Athol Paterson Palmer born to John and Evangeline Palmer in 1909.He was a twin,his twin sister Mary died at birth and is buried in a wooden butterbox at Rookwood cemetry.
Dad was part of a large-ish family ,about 9 children? if I recall?
My mother was Alice Daisy Notley born in 1913.
Who is crankypants and is he/she a Palmer family member?
I have the more or less complete Palmer family history here ,done by my teacher friend and also my cousin Ian's wife Lefayre Palmer who lives in Miranda ,Sydney.

I'm curious to read in one of your comments that dad[Keith] was motor mechanic...never knew that,he did work in State Parliament House till he retired in about the 1970's ?
I'd love to find out more about crankypants and where he/she fits in?
Waiting to hear,
Louise Piazza [nee Palmer]

Address and phone number removed as per forum security policy. once you have made three posts, you can exchange details by private message
dave

DaveHam9
17th March 2013, 23:25
Hello Louise,

welcome to FHUK

Crankypants has not been on-line for some time now. The remote connection to the PALMER family via several marriages at different generations is actually mine.

Several occupations shown in the NSW Electoral Rolls.

1933 NSW Electoral Roll - Parramatta - Seven Hills
PALMER Keith Athol Paterson, 11 Haig st., Wentworthville, storeman

1936 NSW Electoral Roll - Parramatta - Parramatta
PALMER Keith Athol Paterson, 67 Hawkesbury road, motor mech.

Enlisted Kogarah, NSW 15 Oct 1942 - S/N N443518 - Staff Sergeant 3 AUST RETD STORES DEPOT - NOK Palmer Alice living at Penshurst, NSW - Discharged 17 Jan 1946

1943 & 1949 NSW Electoral Roll - Barton - Woniora
PALMER Keith Athol Paterson, 8 Belmont ave., Penshurst, parl. mess.
PALMER Alice Daisy, 8 Belmont ave., Penshurst, home duties

Regards,

Dave

The Bearoness
19th March 2013, 03:51
Hello Dave,
Where do you fit in to the Palmer tree? I'm totally lost with trees etc.Thank God I've got a good friend who's right into Genealogy and can follow family lines right back:)
BTW,have you ever come across a man called Richard Crickmore in your emails to list?
He's my stepbrother whom I've never met but I know his name was on one of these family tree sites.
Cheers
Louise Piazza[nee Palmer]

DaveHam9
26th March 2013, 07:12
Hello Louise,

Sorry, but I've not come across the name Richard Crickmore.

Marriage 18 Apr 1895/C00316 Gribble Ernest Richard Bulmer - Wriede Emilie Julie

That's my great grandmother's sister and then this connection.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 20 April 1903 p.6
MARRIAGES
PALMER - GRIBBLE.-April 8, at St. Silas' Waterloo, by the Rev. J. Hargrave, Frederick Acland, eldest son of Regd. and Millie Palmer, Roseneith, Johnston-street, Annandale, to Evangeline Alice Elizabeth, third daughter of the late Rev. J. B. Gribble F.R.G.S., of Yarrabah, Cairns, Qld., and of Mrs. M. A. Gribble, Bogimbah, Fraser Island, Qld.

Regards,

Dave