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DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 01:17
Hello,

I'd like a look up please for the following GILBY family in Cambridgeshire in 1841.

Thomas b. ? d. bef 1854 Weston Colville
Ann b. ? d. Mar Q 1855 Linton
1825 GILBY George ------ s. of Thos. & Ann Weston Colville
William b. abt 1827 not listed in baptisms
1828 GILBY James ----- s. of Thomas & Ann Weston Colville
1832 GILBY David ---- s. of Thomas & Ann Weston Colville

Thanks.

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 02:01
Hi Dave

1841 U.K census (page 3)
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
Hundred: Radfield
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton

GILBY Thomas, 1781 age 60 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, 1791 age 50 Cambridgeshire
GILBY William, 1821 age 20 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, 1821 age 20 Cambridgeshire
GILBY James, 1828 age 13 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
GILBY David, 1833 age 8 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire

1841 U.K census (page 1)
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
Hundred: Radfield
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton

GILBY George, 1826 age 15 Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 02:23
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Interesting. I didn't have daughter Ann in my tree. Now I wonder if she married and went to Australia with her spouse or if she died before all ther other siblings left England or if she stayed behind with her parents.

The other interesting thing is the birth year for William. That might explain why a baptism can't be found around 1827.

So far I can't find the marriage of Thomas & Ann unknown.

There are also two GILBY brothers - sons of William & Ann - Thomas aged 22 and William aged 24 arrived in Australia on the 'Anglo Saxon' in Oct 1854.

Please see if you can find this latter family in 1841.

Thanks.

Dave

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 02:59
Hello crankypants,

The second family should match this:

William b. 1807 Swaffham Prior
Ann (nee NIXON) b. 1808
William b. 1830
Thomas b. 1832
Mary Ann b. 1835
Henry b. 1839
-----
Emma Maria b. 1842
Sarah Ann b. 1844
George b. 1847

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 03:02
Hello crankypants,

Swaffham Prior or Swaffham Bulbeck - and the marriage 14 Oct 1828 S. Prior - but I have not found the sources to confirm the dates yet.

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 03:04
Hi Dave

1841 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
Hundred: Staine
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket

GILBY William, 1811 age 30 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, 1806 age 35 Cambridgeshire
GILBY William, 1830 age 11 Cambridgeshire
GILBY Thomas, 1833 age 8 Cambridgeshire
GILBY Mary, 1835 age 6 Cambridgeshire
GILBY Henry, 1839 age 2 Cambridgeshire

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
E.P: Ely
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket

GILBY William, head 1810 age 41 Ag Lab Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, wife 1808 age 43 Wicken, Cambridgeshire
GILBY William, son 1831 age 20 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Thomas, son1833 age 18 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Mary Ann, daur 1835 age 16 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Henry, son 1839 age 12 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Emma M, daur 1842 age 9 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Sarah Ann, daur 1847 age 4 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY George, son 1848 age 3 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 03:48
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Please see if you can find the first family in 1851. Oh, son David may be the only one still at home. I don't know about Ann yet, but the other three married before 1851 census so I'll get to them soon.

Thanks.

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 04:08
Hi Dave

GILBY transcribed as GILBEY (David transcribed as Daniel)

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton
Address: Watson Green

GILBEY Thomas, head 1780 age 71 Pauper Ardley, Suffolk
GILBEY Ann, wife 1788 age 63 Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBEY Daniel, son 1832 age 19 Ag Lab Lodger Weston, Cambridgeshire

So David also came out to Australia with wife Emily in 1855 . I noticed a death in Crookwell.

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 04:38
Hello crankypants,

Thanks. I'd say Thomas was born in Ashley, Suffolk.

:D :D Yes, some arrived in Aug 1854 on 'Genghis Khan' to Moreton Bay, others on 'Anglo Saxon' in Oct 1854 and more on 'Chowringhee' in 1855.

It seems Thomas married Ann GRAINGER on 6 Dec 1806 in Weston Colville and that they had a lot more children than I had in my tree: Mary 1808, Thomas 1811, John 1813, William 1819, Ann 1819, Susan 1822 - the last three have baptism records George 1825, James 1828 & David 1832.

Regards,

Dave

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 04:42
Hello crankypants,

Marriages and children born in England:

Marriages Jun 1850
GILBY William Linton 14 143
WATERS Maria Linton 14 143

Children Wiliam & Frederick b. abt 1851 - some confusion as to the age of William - seems he may have been born before they married :confused:

Please see if you can find them in 1851.

Thanks.

dave

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 04:50
Hello crankypants,

Assisted immigrants arriving at Moreton Bay-Brisbane, 1848-59
GILBY William 27 and family 'Genghis Khan' Aug 1854 2137, 2466
GILBY Maria 28 and family
GILBY William 8 and family
GILBY Frederick 3 and family

This would fit with the age on shipping record and the order of the children. It's 8 years not 8 months so this does not fit:

Births Mar 1852
GILBY William Linton 3b 492

Births Jun 1846
Gilbey William Linton 14 90
Gilbey William Linton 14 91


Death # 1900/C3352 Gilby William Thomas Gilby Ann -

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 05:05
Hi Dave

GILBY transcribed as GILBEY (Maria transcribed as Merian)

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton
Address: Watson Green

GILBEY William, head 1817 age 34 Ag Lab Lodger Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBEY Merian, wife 1826 age 25 Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBEY William, son 1846 age 5 Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBEY Frederic, son 1850 9 mo Weston, Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 05:21
Hello crankypants,

Thanks. No sign of Frederic(k) in FreeBMD as GILBY or GILBEY.

Next one:

Marriages Mar 1848
Gilby George Linton 14 113 born 1825
Hulyer Ann Linton 14 113 born abt 1828

Children:

Sep 1850 Gilby male
Births Sep 1850
Gilbey Samuel Linton 14 8[79]

Please see if you can find them in 1851.

Assisted immigrants arriving in Sydney & Newcastle, 1844-59
Oct 1854 'Anglo Saxon'
GILBY
George 29 and family 2137, 2466
Anne 26 and family
Samuel 4
Charlotte 1

Emma was born in NSW.


Death # 5518/1891 GILBY GEORGE THOMAS ANN CROOKWELL

Thanks.

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 05:38
Hi Dave

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton
Address: Watson Colville

GILBY George, head 1826 age 25 Ag Lab Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, wife 1829 age 22 Carlton, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Samuel, son 1850 8 mo Weston, Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 05:47
Hello crankypants,

Thank you. George and Ann both died in 1891 in Crookwell (Ann as GILBEY).


Last one:

Marriages Dec 1848
Gilby James Linton 14 189
Garwood Sophia Maria Linton 14 189

Son John born about 1848 - again can't find in freeBMD

Please see if you can find them in 1851.

Thanks.

Marriages Jun 1855
GILBY James Linton 3b 821
SHIPP Martha Linton 3b 821

Deaths Jun 1853
Gilby Sophia Maria Linton 3b 336

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 06:05
Hi Dave

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton
Address: Watson Colville

JEFFERY Mary, head 1777 age 74 School Mistress West Wratting, Cambridgeshire
GILBY James, lodger 1826 age 25 Ag Lab Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Sofian, wife 1827 age 24 Weston, Cambridgeshire
GILBY John, son 1849 age 2 Weston, Cambridgeshire

Altername name attached [Sophia Maria Gilby]

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 06:16
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I have another SHIPP family from Waterbeach but it seems Martha is not related as far as I can see.

I can't find a birth or baptism for Martha and all I have is the family probably in Weston Colville area in 1841:

SHIPP John 40, Elizabeth 40, Daniel 15, Edward 12, Martha 9, John 7, Timothy 4, Mary 1

Please see if you can find them in 1841 and then 1851.

Thanks,

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 06:53
Hi Dave

1841 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
Hundred: Radfield
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton

SHIPP John, 1801 age 40 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Elizabeth, 1801 age 40 Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Daniel, 1826 age 15 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Edward, 1829 age 12 Ag Lab Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Martha, 1832 age 9 Cambridgeshire
SHIPP John, 1834 age 7 Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Timothy, 1837 age 4 Cambridgeshire
SHIPP Mary, 1840 age 1 Cambridgeshire

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Linton
Address: Weston Colville

(SHIPP transcribed as SHIPE)

SHIPE John, head 1801 age 50 Ag Lab West Wratting, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Elizabeth, wife 1802 age 49 Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Edmond, son 1819 age 32 Ag Lab Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE John, son 1835 age 16 Ag Lab Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Timothy, son 1838 age Ag Lab 13 Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Mary, son 1840 age 11 Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Peter, son 1843 age 8 Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE Sarah, daur 1845 age 6 Weston, Cambridgeshire
SHIPE George, son 1847 age 4 Weston, Cambridgeshire

(Edmond should be Edward age 22)

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Cambridge St Giles Weston Colville
Town: Cambridge
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Cambridge
Address: New Road

(SHIPP transcribed as SHIP)

SHIP Martha, servant 1832 age 19 Servant Weston Colville, Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 07:09
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I have the other SHIPP family in 1851;

1851
Undertakers Lane, Cottenham, Cambs.
John Ship 32 Farm Labourer Bottisham, Cambs
Sarah 25 Waterbeach, Cambs
Emily 4 Waterbeach, Cambs
William 1 Waterbeach, Cambs

and John's marriage:

Marriages Dec 1844
SHIP John Chesterton 14 109
Mackham Sarah Chesterton 14 109

and his death and that of two brothers:

5298/1900 SHIPP JOHN - WILLIAM FLOWER CROOKWELL

4026/1912 SHIPP WILLIAM - WILLIAM FLOWER WOLLONGONG
15820/1896 SHIPP THOMAS - WILLIAM FLOWER WOONONA

Please see if you can find William, Flower and sons John, William & Thomas in Cambridgeshire in 1841.

Thanks,

Dave

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 07:35
Hello crankypants,


Bottisham Lode, Ely possibly:

William b. abt 1796 Ely
Flower (nee DRIVER) b. abt 1795 Stretham
John b. 1820 Ely
Thomas b. 1823 Ely
William b. 1834 Ely

There must be children I don't have :o

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
30th July 2009, 07:38
Hi Dave

1841 U.K census
Civil Parish: Bottisham
Hundred: Staine
R D: Newmarket

SHIP William, 1796 age 45 Sheperd Cambridgeshire
SHIP Haner, 1796 age 45 Cambridgeshire
SHIP John, 1820 age 21 Cambridgeshire
SHIP Thomas, 1823 age 18 Cambridgeshire
SHIP Ruth, 1825 age 16 Cambridgeshire
SHIP Hannah, 1827 age 14 Cambridgeshire
SHIP Avis, 1831 age 10 Cambridgeshire
SHIP William, 1834 age 7 Cambridgeshire
SHIP Ruth, 1757 age 84 Cambridgeshire

(Flower transcribed as Haner)

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
30th July 2009, 07:46
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. We have been lucky they were not hiding with the BALE family :D

I'll move on to queries with the SHIPP family in NSW tomorrow.

Thanks.

Dave

DaveHam9
1st August 2009, 23:19
Hello,

I'd like a look up for the GILBY family in 1861 please.

I'm trying to see if there are any children after George:

1851 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
E.P: Ely
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket
GILBY William, head 1810 age 41 Ag Lab Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, wife 1808 age 43 Wicken, Cambridgeshire
GILBY William, son 1831 age 20 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Thomas, son1833 age 18 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Mary Ann, daur 1835 age 16 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Henry, son 1839 age 12 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Emma M, daur 1842 age 9 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Sarah Ann, daur 1847 age 4 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire ? [1844 age 7]
GILBY George, son 1848 age 3 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire

There may be Mary Elizabeth b. 1853
and Emma b. 1860

Or, there is another William & Ann in the Swaffham B or P area.

Thanks,

Dave

crankypants
2nd August 2009, 00:33
Hi Dave

Included 1871 with another child.

1861 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
E.P: Ely
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket
Address: Swaffham Fen

GILBY William, head 1812 age 49 Ag Lab Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Ann, wife 1821 age 40 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Sarah Ann, daur 1845 age 16 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
HEFFER Susan, Daughter-in-law 1844 age 17 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY George, son 1849 age 12 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
HEFFER Harriet, Daughter-in-law 1851 age 10 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Emma, daur 1860 age 1 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire

1871 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
Town: Swaffham Prior
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket
Address: Fen Lane

GILBY William, head 1806 age 65 Ag Lab Swaffham Fen, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Anne, wife 1821 age 50 Reach, Cambridgeshire
GILBY George, son 1849 age 22 Swaffham Fen, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Emma, daur 1860 age 11 Swaffham Fen, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Henry T son 1864 age 7 Swaffham Fen, Cambridgeshire
CULLUM Frederick, Grandson 1866 age 5 Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
SPICER Charles, boarder 1807 age 64 Bottisham, Cambridgeshire

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
2nd August 2009, 00:50
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Yes. William did remarry. His 2nd spouse is younger - notice the age changes from 43 in 1851 to 40 in 1861 - His 2nd spouse is Ann HEFFER (nee HUNT)

I bet this is the death of Ann (nee NIXSON)
Deaths Mar 1858
Gilby Ann Newmarket 3b 369

I'm betting this is William's death:
Deaths Jun 1879
Gilby William 70 Newmarket 3b 361

Please see if you can find the family in 1881.

Thanks.

Dave

crankypants
2nd August 2009, 01:25
Hi Dave

1881 U.K census
Civil Parish: Swaffham Prior
County: Cambridgeshire
R D: Newmarket
Address: High St.

GILBEY Ann, head wid 1819 age 62 Farm Bailiffs Widow Reach, Cambridgeshire
GILBEY Emma, daur 1860 age 21 Domestic Serv Swaffham P Fen, Cambridgeshire
CULLUM Florence, Granddaughter 1878 age 3 Cambridgeshire
(included family next door)
HEFFER William, head 1831 age 50 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
HEFFER Emma, wife 1829 age 52 Gt Abingdon, Cambridgeshire
HEFFER Henry J, son 1863 age 18 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
HEFFER Charles G, son 1872 age 9 Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire

1881 U.K census
Civil Parish: Pancras
County: London
R D: Pancras
Address: 8 Harrison St

GILBY George, lodger 1848 age 33 Labourer Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire
GILBY Henry, lodger 1862 age 19 Labourer Swaffham Prior, Cambridgeshire

Possible death for Ann GILBY
Deaths Jun 1882
Gilby Ann 63 Newmarket 3b 314

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
2nd August 2009, 01:46
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I can't find the birth of an Ann HUNT with father Spencer. Oh well, how far out on a limb on my tree am I anyway? Do I stop when I fall off? :D I should get back to ANGEL, FURNER and BARRACLOUGH :2fun:

Regards,

Dave

crankypants
2nd August 2009, 02:08
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I can't find the birth of an Ann HUNT with father Spencer. Oh well, how far out on a limb on my tree am I anyway? Do I stop when I fall off? :D I should get back to ANGEL, FURNER and BARRACLOUGH :2fun:

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave

Crash bang thump ouch:D :D :D

Sometimes you need a break from the main branch. It's all good fun though, searching other branches keeps the brain ticking over, it certainly broadens thinking outside the square looking for those evasive ancestors.
I tend to have a clearer vision of where to look next when I've had a break from the direct line.

Well we've done "Z" I guess going back to "A" is a good start.:biggrin: :biggrin:

cheers
crankypants

DaveHam9
2nd August 2009, 02:13
Hello crankypants,

I have 4700 in my database so I've not reached the 5000 mark I put on it when I started.

It's the rest of the "G" then back to BARRACLOUGH. eek)

Working on GALT family now.

Regards,

Dave